Should they bring in the death penalty for england?

Rosaaa

Why the hell not?! Enough people do.

Chillaxxxxx.

If the system had its way so many innocent people would have been hanged.

Reply 81

callum9999

Rosaaa

If there isn't, then there's something seriously wrong going on.

Murderers are animals.

Yes they are animals, just like you and me...

Reply 82

FiveFiveSix

Come on... Death is not something to be enjoyed, or celebrated, or to have time taken over it. You execute them quicky, painlessly and humanely. I'm not a monster...

Rawr.

Get your guns out!

Reply 83

Mcjazz

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Rosaaa

Why the hell not?! Enough people do.

Chillaxxxxx.

Too many people do. Do you really think you know what goes on? Are you willing to put your life in the hands of people who will tell you what you want to hear in order to go about living your normal happy life?

Reply 84

L i b

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Orthala

Becuse that obviously works in the US....

Well, to be frank, nobody really knows. You cannot simply guess at how a country may have evolved without a significant part of its legal tradition. The United States has a lot of social problems and crime is very much a fact of life there; even draconian measures will not necessarily eliminate crime, only reduce it.

Reply 85

FiveFiveSix

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callum9999

That does sound a bit hypocritical. People who kill people should be killed. So should the exectutioner also be killed or is it based upon whether you feel the killing is just or not?

Legally executing someone is not a crime... I never said people who kill people should be killed, otherwise I'd have second thoughts about my choice of career. People who commit crimes, including murder, rape, terrorism etc should be executed. Stop quibbling over semantics, it demonstrates your lack of a cohesive argument.

Reply 86

callum9999

Yes they are animals, just like you and me...

Hahaha. NO.

Please do not compare myself with you, or to a murderer :smile:

Reply 87

Rosaaa

Hahaha. NO.

Please do not compare myself with you, or to a murderer :smile:

Please don't be a closed minded idiot :smile:

Reply 88

Kyle_S-C

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I believe the purpose of our justice system is to deter people from committing crimes, so if you believe it's for the purpose of vengeance, then I have no real comeback. On the matter of deterrent, however, a program I saw on campaigns against the death penalty in the US asserted that there are a few types of people who commit murders (as an example of a potential capital crime):

1) Career criminals or those who belong to violent gangs. For these people, death is an occupational hazard (they're even more likely to be killed by rivals) and the death penalty will not deter them.

2) People with severe psychological illnesses who kill by compulsion. The death penalty won't deter these people either and even if it could, it wouldn't be an appropriate use of the death penalty at all.

3) Murders that arise out of passion (e.g. jilted lovers) aren't going to be stopped either by the thought of the death penalty.

I'm sure people can think of more examples, but I feel that these people demonstrated the ineffectiveness of the death penalty as a deterrent. Sure, it retains its purpose of meting out vengeance, but I don't believe that this is the purpose of our justice system today.

Reply 89

callum9999

Rosaaa

Hahaha. NO.

Please do not compare myself with you, or to a murderer :smile:

Well humans are animals, and I was assuming you are human?

I wouldn't compare myself with you, but I accept we have some similarities, like we are both humans, we can both type etc etc.

Reply 90

SmellyCat16

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yes with capital punishment but the use of it has to be limited to a really small extent...only for the extreeemee crimes.

but anyway i would like to change the topic to extending jail sentences rather than bringing back the death penalty

Reply 91

Mcjazz

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FiveFiveSix

I'm scum because I'd allow someone who'd murdered, raped, blown up innocent civilians or ruined a young kid's life to die?

What's twisted about the last bit? Would you rather I'd advocated horrible torture and a slow, lingering death? Come on... Death is not something to be enjoyed, or celebrated, or to have time taken over it. You execute them quicky, painlessly and humanely. I'm not a monster...

I'm not saying you allowed it, and I very much doubt you would. But after it's been done you still pursue to follow it out by beating them at their own game and doing exactly to them what they did to someone else. That is some crazy logic.

The bit I found twisted was that you tried to make a joke of peoples lives by saying that you're for animal rights. I don't understand how you could even claim to care about animals when you quite clearly don't understand the importance of human life.

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FiveFiveSix

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nuttygirl

Please don't be a closed minded idiot :smile:

Now was that really neccessary? Descending into Ad Hominem attacks shows you've lost...

But she's got a point. You can't compare scum with people who have no intention to or inclination towards committing such crimes that warrant the death penalty.

Reply 93

nuttygirl

Please don't be a closed minded idiot :smile:

Fancy you saying that. :wink:

Reply 94

callum9999

Well humans are animals, and I was assuming you are human?

I wouldn't compare myself with you, but I accept we have some similarities, like we are both humans, we can both type etc etc.

Haha, you're funny, I almost like you. :smile:

Yes I am pretty sure I'm human, so okay we've got that similarity.

Reply 95

FiveFiveSix

Now was that really neccessary? Descending into Ad Hominem attacks shows you've lost...

But she's got a point. You can't compare scum with people who have no intention to or inclination towards committing such crimes that warrant the death penalty.

Sorry dude, shouldn't have said that :smile:

Just totally don't agree with you.

Reply 96

SmellyCat16

but anyway i would like to change the topic to extending jail sentences rather than bringing back the death penalty

I'm for that.
Too many people let out early.

Reply 97

nuttygirl

Sorry dude, shouldn't have said that :smile:

Just totally don't agree with you.

Think you should direct your apology towards me too :wink:

Just because you disagree, doesn't mean the other person is close minded.
Use your intelligence?

Reply 98