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This is never going to end is it
No, unfortunately not for some time
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Oh dear. You claimed that you voted Leave so that we could set VAT rates below 15%. I merely pointed out that we can already do that. I never claimed the UK had "full control" over setting VAT rates. Yet again, your lack of understanding of the stuff you are going on about has let you down.


So why claim that you voted Leave because of VAT rates? If they are not going to change, it seems like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
:yawn: we both know what I said, you are being disingenuous
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And breathe!:rolleyes:

Do you want to rewrite that with some link to reality?
Heard of National Action?
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Oh dear. You claimed that you voted Leave so that we could set VAT rates below 15%. I merely pointed out that we can already do that. I never claimed the UK had "full control" over setting VAT rates. Yet again, your lack of understanding of the stuff you are going on about has let you down.


So why claim that you voted Leave because of VAT rates? If they are not going to change, it seems like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Lol we can't set VAT below 15% for many products, Under EU law, the standard rate of VAT in any EU state cannot be lower than 15%. This was my original post to you about a month back, you were wrong then and still wrong now :facepalm:

This is embarrassing

(Original post by QE2)
I asked..."Which of the powers that we devoluted [sic] to Brussels are you most looking forward to the Government exercising once we leave the EU?"
Just saying "the powers!" is not an answer.
So, come on. Be specific. Which powers?


Which EU law that had been imposed on the UK, superseding UK law, are you most looking forward to being repealed?

TBH, I suspect that like most Leavers, you can't provide an answer to these questions. And we both know why that is, don't we
I've already told you several times, so have other posters too. Like colin said do you not read what you type? You have just talked about VAT that's an example (key word) of a power we could regain. :banghead:
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Heard of National Action?
No I've not
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:yawn: we both know what I said
Yes. You said that being able to set VAT below the EU minimum was one of the reasons you voted Leave.
However, you also claim that you don't even expect the government to reduce it from its current level (which is higher than the EU min), never mind set a lower rate.
Plus, as I demonstrated that the UK government can currently set VAT rates lower than 15%, your "reason" was just more nonsense. So either you were wrong and should now change your position, or that "reason" was merely an attempt to disguise your genuine reason for voting Leave - which we both know is immigration.
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No, unfortunately not for some time
january 31st 2090!⚠️😀
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Lol we can't set VAT below 15% for many products, Under EU law, the standard rate of VAT in any EU state cannot be lower than 15%. This was my original post to you about a month back, you were wrong then and still wrong now :facepalm:
But we can set it lower than 15% on some products - ergo the UK government can set VAT rates lower than 15%.
So basically, your VAT argument is "apart from.... what have the Roman's done for us?"

I've already told you several times, so have other posters too. Like colin said
Ooh, Colin! Since when has Colin been an authority on anything?

You have just talked about VAT that's an example (key word) of a power we could regain. :banghead:
*sigh*
But the point is, your "example" is flawed. Just as all the other "examples" are.
1. We can already set lower rates, just as all other EU member states can, and do.
2. The VAT rate is not going to be reduced, so it is meaningless as a reason for trashing the economy, workers' rights, environmental protection, freedom of trade and movement, etc.
It's like cutting your hand off because you don't like rings.
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The year is 2034.

The government approaches the EU for a further three months extension.

Brexiters still don't know why they voted for Brexit and still can't agree on which terms to leave.
It becomes an annual tradition to ask the EU for a Brexit extension.
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It becomes an annual tradition to ask the EU for a Brexit extension.
Yes. Maybe it should repkace those pointless Halloween activities!
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Yes. You said that being able to set VAT below the EU minimum was one of the reasons you voted Leave.
However, you also claim that you don't even expect the government to reduce it from its current level (which is higher than the EU min), never mind set a lower rate.
Plus, as I demonstrated that the UK government can currently set VAT rates lower than 15%, your "reason" was just more nonsense. So either you were wrong and should now change your position, or that "reason" was merely an attempt to disguise your genuine reason for voting Leave - which we both know is immigration.
Have you heard yourself? Let's revisit that

"You said that being able to set VAT below the EU minimum was one of the reasons you voted Leave."

Ok that's kind of true.

"However, you also claim that you don't even expect the government to reduce it from its current level (which is higher than the EU min), never mind set a lower rate."

The abilty to be able too and what a right wing government will do is two different things entirely and are not linked. :nah: Remaining in the EU enforces right wing regressive tax system and removes the abilty for any UK government to remove it! So you are saying I'm happy with right wing regressive tax systems being forced on to the UK by our superior EU masters! Brilliant great lefty you are and no immigration was not high on my list of reasons to vote leave, which I've told you a million times but you are too bigoted to understand
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january 31st 2090!⚠️😀
That's a it soon mate, steady on
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But we can set it lower than 15% on some products - ergo the UK government can set VAT rates lower than 15%.
So basically, your VAT argument is "apart from.... what have the Roman's done for us?"


Ooh, Colin! Since when has Colin been an authority on anything?


*sigh*
But the point is, your "example" is flawed. Just as all the other "examples" are.
1. We can already set lower rates, just as all other EU member states can, and do.
2. The VAT rate is not going to be reduced, so it is meaningless as a reason for trashing the economy, workers' rights, environmental protection, freedom of trade and movement, etc.
It's like cutting your hand off because you don't like rings.
:facepalm:what garbage

1) Yes can on products the EU allow us too, I've already told you this. What does that have to do with the fact the EU enforces member states to apply VAT on its terms? Which is a power we can regain when leaving the EU.

2) what do you think you achieve by edited my words to make false statements?

3) 1. No we cant
2. No it's not under the current government and a vote for brexit is not going to repeal workers right,environment 0rotections and all that nonsensical rubbish. This is based on the premise of a majority hard right wing government for an eternity, which is not ever going too happen.
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That's a it soon mate, steady on
The situation is hilarious! A general election on 12th Dec! I cannot wait to see what hapoens on 31st Jan 2020! lol!
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No, unfortunately not for some time
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But we can set it lower than 15% on some products - ergo the UK government can set VAT rates lower than 15%.
So basically, your VAT argument is "apart from.... what have the Roman's done for us?"


Ooh, Colin! Since when has Colin been an authority on anything?


*sigh*
But the point is, your "example" is flawed. Just as all the other "examples" are.
1. We can already set lower rates, just as all other EU member states can, and do.
2. The VAT rate is not going to be reduced, so it is meaningless as a reason for trashing the economy, workers' rights, environmental protection, freedom of trade and movement, etc.
It's like cutting your hand off because you don't like rings.
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Agreeing with someone making a incorrect point just because they come from the same political ilk is bad form.

The point is, was and will be the same. That is the EU enforces member states to apply VAT on its terms, which is a power we can regain when leaving the EU, the original point stands.
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Agreeing with someone making a incorrect point just because they come from the same political ilk is bad form.

The point is, was and will be the same. That is the EU enforces member states to apply VAT on its terms, which is a power we can regain when leaving the EU, the original point stands.
Not sure how agreeing with his remark is 'bad form'. On the other hand getting offended and trying to tick me off for my agreeing with a point, just because you dont like it, is most certainly bad form..
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Not sure how agreeing with his remark is 'bad form'. On the other hand getting offended and trying to tick me off for my agreeing with a point, just because you dont like it, is most certainly bad form..
Im not offended, I'm stating a fact that agreeing with someone who has been proven incorrect just because they make a point which flatters you're view is bad form. I dont just agree with other leavers or other socialists fallacious veiw points for no reason other than they agree with me.

QE2 is wriggling around like a maggot on a hook because he is wrong and dishonest. Hes removing context and editing my words to try to create a stawman.

Leaving the EU does not repeal workers rights, environmental protections but it does gain us some controls back, vat was an example I gave not a primary reason as qe2 is dishonesty trying to claim.
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