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ColinDent
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(Original post by QE2)
But we can set it lower than 15% on some products - ergo the UK government can set VAT rates lower than 15%.
So basically, your VAT argument is "apart from.... what have the Roman's done for us?"


Ooh, Colin! Since when has Colin been an authority on anything?


*sigh*
But the point is, your "example" is flawed. Just as all the other "examples" are.
1. We can already set lower rates, just as all other EU member states can, and do.
2. The VAT rate is not going to be reduced, so it is meaningless as a reason for trashing the economy, workers' rights, environmental protection, freedom of trade and movement, etc.
It's like cutting your hand off because you don't like rings.
I've never pretended to be an expert I merely express an opinion, it is you who has the superiority complex and believes your opinion to be fact.
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Im not offended, I'm stating a fact that agreeing with someone who has been proven incorrect just because they make a point which flatters you're view is bad form. I dont just agree with other leavers or other socialists fallacious veiw points for no reason other than they agree with me.
Uhuh.
The points "flattering of my world view" (not sure the EU constitutes the world though) has nothing to do with it. QE2 raised a valid, and correct, point. The fact he raised it against you is also neither here nor there, as im sure he can attest i almost always disagree with his points.
QE2 is wriggling around like a maggot on a hook because he is wrong and dishonest. Hes removing context and editing my words to try to create a stawman.
Charming analogy.
I can see both of your comments and im afraid i fail to see where he has edited any of your posts or changed the inflection?
Leaving the EU does not repeal workers rights, environmental protections but it does gain us some controls back, vat was an example I gave not a primary reason as qe2 is dishonesty trying to claim.
No it does not. However, given that the current regime will certainly use it as a pretext to turn us into an authoritarian state or "the Singapore of the Atlantic" his point stands. Then again Labour intends to turn the UK into a Marxist state so you can take your pick of the two visions. At least the people of Singapore are prosperous and enjoy high living standards though i guess.

Although, not taking a position on the vat issue, i'm curious why it is such an important point for you?
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Uhuh.
The points "flattering of my world view" (not sure the EU constitutes the world though) has nothing to do with it. QE2 raised a valid, and correct, point. The fact he raised it against you is also neither here nor there, as im sure he can attest i almost always disagree with his points.

Charming analogy.
I can see both of your comments and im afraid i fail to see where he has edited any of your posts or changed the inflection?

No it does not. However, given that the current regime will certainly use it as a pretext to turn us into an authoritarian state or "the Singapore of the Atlantic" his point stands. Then again Labour intends to turn the UK into a Marxist state so you can take your pick of the two visions. At least the people of Singapore are prosperous and enjoy high living standards though i guess.

Although, not taking a position on the vat issue, i'm curious why it is such an important point for you?
Ok paragraph order.

I think we may be arguing points from different books, so too speak. I'm not sure how much of the conversation you are aware of between me and the defunct boat.

Well it's an accurate analysis, the person is litterally moving what was originally said to make it falsely appear I'm claiming something in not. He removes context, by breaking sentences down the middle sentence you repped is a clear example. ColinDent was not mentioned as an authority, if you read my original post before the boat edited it.

Well it is a nonsense because all leaving does is allow the elected parliament to do what it wishes. A Marxist government forever or a sigapore right wing government forever is not going to happen. What's wrong with people getting what they vote for?


Again I'm not, this is my point the defunct boat is the one blowing the VAT issue up out of all proportion because surprise surprise hes wrong! The UK charged 0% VAT on domestic fuel bills in 1991, the Conservative government introduced a VAT rate of 8% in 1993. This was later lowered to 5% under Labour. Under the EU rules, this is now the lowest VAT rate possible for British domestic fuel bills, under EU law. My point a few months back i was correcting but qe2's hook ridding has brought back up to make a false point. QE2 incorrect in his statement that britian can control all it VAT and it cannot. Fact
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