Applying for two subjects at LSE Watch

hanwilkie
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Quite a few admissions type people have advised not to- but I've noticed a couple of users of these boards with two LSE offers.

I really want to stay in or near london - will probably apply for Economics at SOAS and UCL, E+M at Cambridge, but LSE is my first choice.

Originally i wanted to apply for both Economics and Management Sciences (Which is (BBB-ABB) but i worried about trying it together in a personal statement - because they put so much stress on saying why you want to study the specific subject. Now I am thinking of applying for Economics and Economics and Social policy (ABB) ; but this might be tricky to reconcile with the mangement bit of an E+M statement.

What is the general consensous on multiple LSE apps? Is anyone else in this position?
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Economics and Management is at Oxford, you mean Economics OR Management studies at Cambridge.

You should link the two together and say why you think that management is a fascinating application of Economics skills blah blah blah.
Have a look at KCL and Royal Holloway, they have good Economics courses.

Anyway, I wouldn't advise it. But, let's think more:

What were you GCSEs and their grades?
And your A Levels and expected grades?
Your work experience?
Your outside reading?

Once we establish these it'll be easier to see if there is any point applying twice or at all. (And I say point in full awareness that all the stereotypes and typical students and all that crap are in fact in there with the exceptions to the rules).
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Economics and Management is at Oxford, you mean Economics OR Management studies at Cambridge.

You should link the two together and say why you think that management is a fascinating application of Economics skills blah blah blah.
Have a look at KCL and Royal Holloway, they have good Economics courses.

Anyway, I wouldn't advise it. But, let's think more:

What were you GCSEs and their grades?
And your A Levels and expected grades?
Your work experience?
Your outside reading?

Once we establish these it'll be easier to see if there is any point applying twice or at all. (And I say point in full awareness that all the stereotypes and typical students and all that crap are in fact in there with the exceptions to the rules).

8 GCSEs : 7 A* 1A
Expecting 4 As at A level: Maths, Economics, History, Art

Did two weeks work experience at a small business consultansy last summer, they ended up employing me for 6 weeks. Working for the same firm this year. Have great references from the Director and my immediate manager. Also have a scholarship to top 5 london school as well as various in school awards, won an economics comp last year, set up a business with my parents.

I haven't read as much as I should have, but am stepping it up a gear. Got some 'classics;: Rosseau, Mill, Keynes, Smith, and have read a lot of popular business books.

I did consider Maths with Management at kings, my maths teachers encouraged me to apply to read maths, but i thought this just made PS even harder.
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Yeah I think you should apply at least once. You're definitely in with a chance.
To increase your chances you could take up Politics or Further Maths AS next year? Just a thought. Or do it over summer?
Anyway, I would say that if you can make your personal statement fit the bill, go for it.
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(Original post by hanwilkie)
Quite a few admissions type people have advised not to- but I've noticed a couple of users of these boards with two LSE offers.

I really want to stay in or near london - will probably apply for Economics at SOAS and UCL, E+M at Cambridge, but LSE is my first choice.

Originally i wanted to apply for both Economics and Management Sciences (Which is (BBB-ABB) but i worried about trying it together in a personal statement - because they put so much stress on saying why you want to study the specific subject. Now I am thinking of applying for Economics and Economics and Social policy (ABB) ; but this might be tricky to reconcile with the mangement bit of an E+M statement.

What is the general consensous on multiple LSE apps? Is anyone else in this position?
multiple LSE apps are fine as long as you have a good ps to back it up and they are similar subjects. Unfortunately economics and management sciences are very different. Note that Man Sci is not the same as management and so your PS has to be focused on this specialist course. I would say its very difficult to apply to both these courses as they are so different and it could end up hurting your chances for both courses. LSE say you have to mention why you wish to study Operational Research if you wish to apply for the course. It could mess up your personal statement.

Economics and Social policy is possible but may affect your Oxford Chances as its difficult to mention Social policy, economics and management in a personal statement. LSE have a very strict policy on joint honours courses. They require a 50:50 split in the personal statement. Failure to do this will see you rejected even if you have amazing grades. i think a guy on TSR got rejected from LSE for Gov and Politics for this reason.

So if you really want to a make a double application to LSE, play it safe and go for Bsc Economics and Bsc Management. This way you can get a 50:50 split that would complement your other choices. Its a shame Oxford abolished the OAF form cos then you could get away from mentioning Management in your personal statement as you can write a specific one on that form.

Your grades, ECs are all good. Maybe to improve your chances for L101 take up A2 Further Maths.
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(Original post by hanwilkie)
8 GCSEs : 7 A* 1A
Expecting 4 As at A level: Maths, Economics, History, Art

Did two weeks work experience at a small business consultansy last summer, they ended up employing me for 6 weeks. Working for the same firm this year. Have great references from the Director and my immediate manager. Also have a scholarship to top 5 london school as well as various in school awards, won an economics comp last year, set up a business with my parents.

I haven't read as much as I should have, but am stepping it up a gear. Got some 'classics;: Rosseau, Mill, Keynes, Smith, and have read a lot of popular business books.

I did consider Maths with Management at kings, my maths teachers encouraged me to apply to read maths, but i thought this just made PS even harder.
First advice don't bother reading any books maybe one but that should be enough. If you want to do some reserch around the topic then I suggest you look online just to get an idea but don't dwell tooo much on it.

I think looking at your profile that you will do a fantastic econ & Man PS but not a good social pol & econ statement. I got 2 A* 5A 2B C at GCSE and was estimated AA (already had B in maths) at A2 and got in so I won't worry about your GCSE grades e.t.c as they are more than enough.#

One of the things I did was I wrote a Law and Econ PS but after I applied on of the unis withdrew the course so I applied to LSE instead. AS UCAS would not let me change my PS I wrote a separate Social pol & Econ statement and sent it to the admissions tutor

My advice is to do a PS focusing on Econ and maybe show some managment aspect of yourself without saying I want to do econ or I want to do econ & man. You have to be a bit general. I won't really advice you to apply for social pol and econ as looking at what you have posted I think you would find it easier talk about managment
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multiple LSE apps are fine as long as you have a good ps to back it up and they are similar subjects. Unfortunately economics and management sciences are very different. Note that Man Sci is not the same as management and so your PS has to be focused on this specialist course. I would say its very difficult to apply to both these courses as they are so different and it could end up hurting your chances for both courses. LSE say you have to mention why you wish to study Operational Research if you wish to apply for the course. It could mess up your personal statement.

Economics and Social policy is possible but may affect your Oxford Chances as its difficult to mention Social policy, economics and management in a personal statement. LSE have a very strict policy on joint honours courses. They require a 50:50 split in the personal statement. Failure to do this will see you rejected even if you have amazing grades. i think a guy on TSR got rejected from LSE for Gov and Politics for this reason.

So if you really want to a make a double application to LSE, play it safe and go for Bsc Economics and Bsc Management. This way you can get a 50:50 split that would complement your other choices. Its a shame Oxford abolished the OAF form cos then you could get away from mentioning Management in your personal statement as you can write a specific one on that form.

Your grades, ECs are all good. Maybe to improve your chances for L101 take up A2 Further Maths.
Or like I posted before what you can do is focus on economics (mention some interest in managment too) and send a diffrent PS to LSE as I did a Law and econ PS and sent a social pol and econ statment to LSE and they gave me an offer
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I did mean E+M at oxford, sorry about that.

"So if you really want to a make a double application to LSE, play it safe and go for Bsc Economics and Bsc Management. This way you can get a 50:50 split that would complement your other choices. Its a shame Oxford abolished the OAF form cos then you could get away from mentioning Management in your personal statement as you can write a specific one on that form."

I had considered applying for both Economics and Management at LSE; I suppose my rationale for applying for ManSci was the fact it makes a lower offer. I'm not sure if applying for two equally difficult to get into subjects is really beneficial?
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It isnt beneficial. Man Sci is getting more competitive. The amount of applicants has nearly doubled. Virtually every single LSE place is competitive for all courses. If you are looking for a guaranteed insurance place, i recommend you do not rely on LSE.
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I did mean E+M at oxford, sorry about that.

"So if you really want to a make a double application to LSE, play it safe and go for Bsc Economics and Bsc Management. This way you can get a 50:50 split that would complement your other choices. Its a shame Oxford abolished the OAF form cos then you could get away from mentioning Management in your personal statement as you can write a specific one on that form."

I had considered applying for both Economics and Management at LSE; I suppose my rationale for applying for ManSci was the fact it makes a lower offer. I'm not sure if applying for two equally difficult to get into subjects is really beneficial?
You may be right about that although managment has a lower grade requirment. My advice is that you just apply to five different places and if you want to still apply for two courses at LSE do and econ PS showing an interest in managment then send LSE a separate managment PS
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