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Interesting question. Remember for most courses, they only give firsts to like 12% of the graduates. So you really have to be in that best top percentage of people passing out.
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That might work for GCSEs but a degree is a whole different toaster of birds.
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(Original post by gangsta316)
I don't get it. In Biology couldn't you just learn the textbook and get near full marks?
Why do you think.

In uni you can't just "learn the textbook". In pretty much all subjects I can think of, you need to read outside of the syllabus to help you in examinations.
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Firsts are a way of demonstrating which are the best candidates from the course. If everyone got a first from just reading the text book then surely there would just be no point to them?
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In uni you can't just "learn the textbook". In pretty much all subjects I can think of, you need to read outside of the syllabus to help you in examinations.
True. One has to possess a wide breadth of knowledge to achieve anything above 68%.
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so what do you actually need to do to get a first?

i've heard people say its down to innate ability?
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It's probably a mixture of raw ability and how much you've learnt. How much you've learnt for the knowledge part, innate ability for understanding and being able to do non-routine 'problems'. The balance of each will depend on the subject e.g. I'd say maths was probably more about ability than how much you've read from a textbook.
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If one is intelligent and works very hard, is getting a first a reasonable aim? As I am determined to gain one in my Classics degree (as I would love to do graduate work at a top university, maybe even Oxford).
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(Original post by gangsta316)
I don't get it. In Biology couldn't you just learn the textbook and get near full marks?
You would have to read too many textbooks.
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So for a first in econ, how much extra work do you have to do?
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what are the chances of geting the top marks if you treat the course like a full time job (in uni from 9-5 mon - fri) thats what i did with my BTEC
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(Original post by 2026)
True. One has to possess a wide breadth of knowledge to achieve anything above 68%.
Not true.
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Not true.
Well, I suppose it differs depending on your university to a certain extent as well.
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Not true.
Well it seems to be the case at the LSE.
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what are the chances of geting the top marks if you treat the course like a full time job (in uni from 9-5 mon - fri) thats what i did with my BTEC
It's more like 8am-10pm at times. And that doesn't mean you'll get the top marks.
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In uni everyone is smarter than you, that's why it's hard to get a first. And biology is a little more than just reading books...they WILL ask you unfamiliar questions where you have to use your own judgement.
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I imagine in the arts subjects it's more difficult to achieve a first because they can't really be marked objectively.
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It's more like 8am-10pm at times. And that doesn't mean you'll get the top marks.
:eek:

lol, im confident that even sooo i have the ability to get the top marks, i will just have to try harder than some others as i lack a little in raw abaility, never mind, i think if you want something enough you will do your upmost to get it
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(Original post by jermaindefoe)
:eek:

lol, im confident that even sooo i have the ability to get the top marks, i will just have to try harder than some others as i lack a little in raw abaility, never mind, i think if you want something enough you will do your upmost to get it
Everyone is in the running of getting a first, that's what makes it hard, you can't be too confident in getting a first - if you are you're probably far too smart or just doing an easy course:rolleyes:
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