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I'm introducing this poll mainly because I feel that these days, people are willing to trade off their honour for pure material gain, and concepts of chivalry have been lost. This though has mainly been stimulated by a few threads ive been reading on the forum, but what do you think, are these noble causes being pushed aside for petty cash these days?
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do you mean basic politeness?
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Its not chivalry but the fact that men cant be gentlemen anymore without being called sexist for saying a woman cant do things.
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it's not gone at all. some people prostitute their soul, others don't. i'd like to think i'm in the latter.
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looks to me like socialism removes chivalry and honourable gentlemen. why go that little bit further when we're all going to be equal anyway:rolleyes:
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People seem to have no honour, doing something for the sake of doing (because it's helpful, enjoyable, dutiful...) it is no more, there has to be a personal gain...

At my school: "I just do it so I can put it on my UCAS"

Worst thing about it is that they don't seem to be ashamed about admitting that...

(Original post by MichaelG)
looks to me like socialism removes chivalry and honourable gentlemen. why go that little bit further when we're all going to be equal anyway:rolleyes:
This has nothing to do with politics...
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(Original post by Hanoi)
This has nothing to do with politics...
oh

i thought politics affected everything, oh well

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Honour has gone, chivalry not yet.
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They have to an extent, but chivalry is alive and kicking in my uni. Most of the male tutors/male students in my subject are desperate to wrap me (the helpless damsel in distress! ) up in cotton wool and protect me from the big bad world

I mock it and occasionally hate it, but it's well meant and quite nice actually
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Not totally no. The basic concept of greeting someone by holding out ones right hand to shake anothers still remains....this is as important as it ever was before, when it was a gesture of peace. (in that you were not going to strike out with ones weapon in their right hand)
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(Original post by MichaelG)
looks to me like socialism removes chivalry and honourable gentlemen. why go that little bit further when we're all going to be equal anyway:rolleyes:
:confused:
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I'm not sure. I put a great deal of store by basic politeness, and try to be 'nice' generally (opening doors for people, that kind of thing). Two examples from the same day illustrate why I'm unsure:

I was travelling from a conference back to Birmingham, and was carrying a suitcase (full of books ) and a heavy laptop. When I got on my first train (there were several changes), I tried to hoist my suitcase onto the luggage rack, so that I could offer the seat beside mine (which the case was previously blocking) to a woman who was leaning on a crutch for support. Basically I struggled with the bag (it was heavy, I'm skinny), and hurt my arm trying to lift it above my head onto the rack, making me 'cry out' at the pain. Not one person in the packed carriage offered to help, or even looked to see what was wrong (obviously the disabled woman couldn't help)

But, on the same day, getting off a different train, a man offered, without any prompting, to help me with my bags, and not only lifted my case off the train, but carried it up the station stairs for me.

That rant only shows, I suppose, that there are plenty of people who don't care, and a polite minority fighting the good fight :rolleyes:
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**** chivalry.:mad:
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Honour, no. It's just been kind of, reformed.

Every time your hear about a fight or something, it's almost always related to honour. Yeah they call it revenge now, but it's the honour taken from them that they want to retrieve, by gettng revenge. It's just been modernised. And toned down. Thankfully. Don't think Seppuku would fit into the modern day too well.

Chivalry, yes. Sort of. It's not completely killed off yet.

That was one of the main barriers to equality. For females, lets face it, it's benefitting them they wouldn't want rid of it. And no guy would have wanted to be the first to reject the idea. Can't really have proper equality when you've got half the country bending over backwards for the other half because of physical features can ya. It's about the same as that whole black people letting white people have their seat on the bus they used to have in America. You'd be outrages if someone expected that these days. Well it works about the same way really. Just male-female instead of white-black.

I say it's not completely gone because a lot of people still hold onto the "It's wrong to hit a girl" thing and a few of the other lesser aspects, but that is an idea that seems to be being wiped out now for the more common sense "just don't start any fight" versions.
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