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Is this direct democracy?
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No, not really. although i'm sure some would disagree with me on that one.
Direct democracy tends to be where the polis decide the policy and may or may not enact it, such as in certain Swiss Cantons.
Being able to recall and potentially fire your MP on the other hand doesnt require a majority of the electorate for their particular constituency (1/10 being required i believe).
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No, not really. although i'm sure some would disagree with me on that one.
Direct democracy tends to be where the polis decide the policy and may or may not enact it, such as in certain Swiss Cantons.
Being able to recall and potentially fire your MP on the other hand doesnt require a majority of the electorate for their particular constituency (1/10 being required i believe).
1/10 is correct and although not a majority there has to be some pretty bad feeling towards the incumbent MP for it to happen and would almost certainly result in them losing their seats.
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No.

It is also a really watered down Act. Recall petitions are only intiated in specific circumstances of serious impropriety.

There is no means to recall an MP for just being incredibly **** at their job.

If only the average worker had such employment protection.
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Yes, but surely if the petition is triggered it’s direct democracy for the constituents to make the decision?
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1/10 is correct and although not a majority there has to be some pretty bad feeling towards the incumbent MP for it to happen and would almost certainly result in them losing their seats.
Indeed, i believe only 2 of the 3 instances have resulted in an MP being booted though? With the most prominent being that Labour woman.
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No.

It is also a really watered down Act. Recall petitions are only intiated in specific circumstances of serious impropriety.

There is no means to recall an MP for just being incredibly **** at their job.

If only the average worker had such employment protection.
Isnt it for any form of criminal conduct?
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Yes, but surely if the petition is triggered it’s direct democracy for the constituents to make the decision?
Not especially, it's effectively little different than an election in what happens. The most i, personally, would compare it to is a referendum (albeit extremely loosely).
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Indeed, i believe only 2 of the 3 instances have resulted in an MP being booted though? With the most prominent being that Labour woman.

Isnt it for any form of criminal conduct?

Not especially, it's effectively little different than an election in what happens. The most i, personally, would compare it to is a referendum (albeit extremely loosely).
Referendums are a type of direct democracy?
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Indeed, i believe only 2 of the 3 instances have resulted in an MP being booted though? With the most prominent being that Labour woman.

Isnt it for any form of criminal conduct?

Not especially, it's effectively little different than an election in what happens. The most i, personally, would compare it to is a referendum (albeit extremely loosely).
Is that right? The old grey matter's playing tricks on me! I could've sworn there were more cases of it, must be all those years of alcohol abuse 😎
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Is that right? The old grey matter's playing tricks on me! I could've sworn there were more cases of it, must be all those years of alcohol abuse 😎
You might well be right, i'm just going off Wiki on this one
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You might well be right, i'm just going off Wiki on this one
No I'm being serious, many years of boozezes has probably taken it's toll, my bet would be that you are indeed correct.
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No, not really. although i'm sure some would disagree with me on that one.
Direct democracy tends to be where the polis decide the policy and may or may not enact it, such as in certain Swiss Cantons.
Being able to recall and potentially fire your MP on the other hand doesnt require a majority of the electorate for their particular constituency (1/10 being required i believe).
Ultimately the Swiss aren’t under a direct democracy either
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Not especially, it's effectively little different than an election in what happens. The most i, personally, would compare it to is a referendum (albeit extremely loosely).
Shockingly an MP can be an MP even if they have a criminal record
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Shockingly an MP can be an MP even if they have a criminal record
I think theyre banned if they serve over a year or two in jail though arent they?
Then again its practically a job requirement that an MP have some sort of criminal/moral/sexual deviancy to their name :lol:
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No I'm being serious, many years of boozezes has probably taken it's toll, my bet would be that you are indeed correct.
Well theres worse things to do then indulge valiantly in a wee drinkey
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Ultimately the Swiss aren’t under a direct democracy either
My point was more that too a point some of them are, at least in a manner of speaking.
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I think theyre banned if they serve over a year or two in jail though arent they?
Then again its practically a job requirement that an MP have some sort of criminal/moral/sexual deviancy to their name :lol:
One MP was voted in while in prison
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One MP was voted in while in prison
Doesnt surprise me in the slightest, although whom was this delightful reprobate?
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Doesnt surprise me in the slightest, although whom was this delightful reprobate?
Some MP during the troubles
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Doesnt surprise me in the slightest, although whom was this delightful reprobate?
Learnt it in my a levels politics class a few weeks ago
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