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Germany's actions from unification to seperation are almost all indefensible from one angle or another.
Bismarck
Sure, other countries were engaging in less than honorable actions, but they weren't going around sparking off one world war after another.



Then clearly your Austrian lecturer was wrong.

It doesn't help that people like you are still trying to shift the blame for the War on others...


That's what I mean. Those other actions did play at part.

Excuse me?! No I'm not. I'm not blaming anyone, I'm simply saying that people should put history to rest and let the Germans be.

Anyway can we just let this go now? I get that no one is ever gonna let it go and I don't appreciate a lot of this being directed at me when I was only trying to make a point.
Thud
Poland asked for it remember; the German-faked attack on a German radio station. Them damn Poles asking for their country to be invaded and millions of their people slaughtered in the name of racial purity for the Germans. All their fault, not the fault of the Germans at all of course. No, the Germans didn't start hostilities, they didn't put Hitler in power, they didn't build camps to annihilate Jews, gays, slavs, gypsies, the mentally ill, they didn't ally with the Soviet Union in agreement to invade Poland, they never invaded Czechoslovakia, it's all a big Allied conspiracy theory against the poor Germans who in their whole history have always been the victim, never the aggressor. Poor poor ugly krauts.


I particularly loved someone in the alehouse where we were watching the Germany Poland game:

"Wouldn't you think they would get over it, it's been how long since it happened?"

Now in no way am I suggesting the whole world should hold a grudge over every German but the idea of just "getting over" more than 1.5 million of your countrymen being ethnically cleansed seems a bit far fetched to me.
either way when I get back to aston I'm keeping an eye on the German society. they're plotting I swear!
Bismarck
Remind me who forced Germany to invade France in WWI.


I may be entirely wrong, as WWI history isn't near an interest of mine, but didn't Russia begin mobilising all of it's troops on it's European border in 1914? Germany must've known that the Brits and French wouldn't stay out of a conflict of that scale?
lodzinski
either way when I get back to aston I'm keeping an eye on the German society. they're plotting I swear!

Nah we're not seriously. Nothing is going on really right now.
yeah right..... You said that before you remilitarised the rhineland!!!!! (not you specifically of course, that would make you far older than you appear to be)
lodzinski
yeah right..... You said that before you remilitarised the rhineland!!!!! (not you specifically of course, that would make you far older than you appear to be)

Well most of it was made up of final years so they've left.
gonna have to railroad freshers into it then!
Mission and a half!! They all freak out cos they reckon that everyone is either fluent or will laugh at them for their mistakes.
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ForeverIsMyName
I may be entirely wrong, as WWI history isn't near an interest of mine, but didn't Russia begin mobilising all of it's troops on it's European border in 1914? Germany must've known that the Brits and French wouldn't stay out of a conflict of that scale?


Britain DID stay out of WWI until Germany invaded neutral Belgium. No way to tell whether France would declare war on Germany or not; fact is that Germany attacked France totally unprovoked. Russia and Austria were dragged into the war mostly through miscalculations. Germany actually wanted the war (to alter the power balance in Europe and outside of Europe).
Eh, we specifically told Germany that if they didn't touch Belgium we wouldn't fight them. They didn't think we would stick to that 80 year old piece of paper...
Originally Posted by Jerking My Gerking
... I just believe in right wing politics. Why is it, lots of people assume you are a Nazi/fascist simply because you are into Nationalism?



The same reason people who lean to the left get called commies
hannah_dru
They had rivalry long before that. There are other factors too.

I'm not saying Germany aren't at fault, I'm saying that responsibility for causing it doesn't completely fall on their head.


Good, because it would seem that they messed up, and have been on the naughty stair for a fair while.
fletchinator
The same reason people who lean to the left get called commies

Noo, they'd be called Stalin or Stalinists.
Bismarck
Britain DID stay out of WWI until Germany invaded neutral Belgium. No way to tell whether France would declare war on Germany or not; fact is that Germany attacked France totally unprovoked. Russia and Austria were dragged into the war mostly through miscalculations. Germany actually wanted the war (to alter the power balance in Europe and outside of Europe).


Forgot about this thread - Germany only invaded France through Belgium because as soon as the Russians mobilised, the French coming into the war was inevitable, no? I always got the impression that the French/Russian/British alliance was pretty strong following the years preceding it?
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ForeverIsMyName
Forgot about this thread - Germany only invaded France through Belgium because as soon as the Russians mobilised, the French coming into the war was inevitable, no? I always got the impression that the French/Russian/British alliance was pretty strong following the years preceding it?


The Franco-Russian Cordiale took place in 1904, and they weren't exactly the most reliable of allies. It's possible that France would have attacked Germany, but Germany didn't wait, so it's a moot point. Not only that, it invaded a neutral country to get to France, a neutral country whose sovereignty Britain had been guaranteeing ever since its creation.
Didnt know we had facists on TSR!

Down with them I say! Workers of the World Unite!
Seven_Three
Why don't we examine the contribution of socialists throughout political history? Maybe we can start with the "National Socialist German workers party"?


So because socialist was in the name then the Nazis were socialists?

I guess that means North Korea is a democracy because it's called the Democratic People's Republic of Korea?

And East Germany was a democracy as it was called the German Democratic Republic?

:rolleyes:
Grim_the_Reaper
So because socialist was in the name then the Nazis were socialists?

I guess that means North Korea is a democracy because it's called the Democratic People's Republic of Korea?

And East Germany was a democracy as it was called the German Democratic Republic?

:rolleyes:


They were socialists beacuse of thier economic policy and the collectivist mindset which whent throughout all of the Nazi parties policies. They were socialists, they only had hints of right wing ideology in thier social policy, otherwise they were very left wing.

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