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(Original post by Burton Bridge)
It's called lack of abilty to present a logical argument mate, they know it ridiculous they just dislike his policies
I agree. It is fine to dislike he politics or policies, but to compare him to Hitler is one a different level.
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That's not a bigoted point of veiw at all is it?

Boredman6 is trying to say simalar thing I have been for god knows, that immigration outside Europe can currently be controlled and the government do not wish too, also the EU is prejudiced itself towards European people and being a member of it removes control of European immigration. That's it it's quite simple unfortunately bigots cannot get their head round it. There are loads of reasons to vote brexit, not everyone voted brexit for immigration even if some did. Also the abilty to wish to control something is not racist in anyway.

The conservatives are not all racists, the reason the race card gets overused nowadays is because of bigoted people who lack the ability/knowledge to make decent arguments without resorting to name call. We need to rewrite Godwins law for these people.
I am not saying that the conservatives are racist just the one's who voted leave purely due to immigration and for no other "proper" reason (most Brexitiers) without doing any other research and being lied to by the Tories and the whole government... ( I blame Cameron, Boris and "Govey" (Michael Gove)
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Dont the conservatives have a Indian woman and a Pakistani man as home secretaries?. They can't be racist now can they.
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(Original post by 1st superstar)
I am not saying that the conservatives are racist just the one's who voted leave purely due to immigration and for no other "proper" reason (most Brexitiers) without doing any other research and being lied to by the Tories and the whole government... ( I blame Cameron, Boris and "Govey" (Michael Gove)
I hear what you are saying, I just find it difficult to stomach that most brexiteers voted leave because they wanted mass deportation of people, I don't believe that is true. I think most remainers voted remain through a fear of change and haven't the first idea of the European union, the EU elections prove this.

The whole issue of lies is not helpful either because both sides lied and continue to lie, I mean look at the dummie green MP who let it slip "the liberal Democrats don'tgive a fu#k about the 17.4 million people" this is true they dont, but she's in a remain alliance with them!! I mean FFS they will do or say anything ti remain, so pot and kettle Caroline!

Lies were told both ways, racists are on both sides and its about we had proper adult discussions about the issues, as opposed to shouting Nazi and Racist at everybody we dint like.
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I hear what you are saying, I just find it difficult to stomach that most brexiteers voted leave because they wanted mass deportation of people, I don't believe that is true. I think most remainers voted remain through a fear of change and haven't the first idea of the European union, the EU elections prove this.

The whole issue of lies is not helpful either because both sides lied and continue to lie, I mean look at the dummie green MP who let it slip "the liberal Democrats don'tgive a fu#k about the 17.4 million people" this is true they dont, but she's in a remain alliance with them!! I mean FFS they will do or say anything ti remain, so pot and kettle Caroline!

Lies were told both ways, racists are on both sides and its about we had proper adult discussions about the issues, as opposed to shouting Nazi and Racist at everybody we dint like.
true am tbh I have seen how dictatorial the EU are they won't let us bloody leave and are always super quick to accept an extension hmm (coincidence I think not)... :K: they don't want us to leave so that they can control us (tbh the referendum should have never happened...)
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(Original post by Wired_1800)
You are seriously comparing Corbyn to Hitler? Really??
they share a wish to destroy our traditional way of life and replace it with despotism. any fool can see that.
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they share a wish to destroy our traditional way of life and replace it with despotism. any fool can see that.
Ok :confused:
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true am tbh I have seen how dictatorial the EU are they won't let us bloody leave and are always super quick to accept an extension hmm (coincidence I think not)... :K: they don't want us to leave so that they can control us (tbh the referendum should have never happened...)
We can agree the referendum should never of happened, direct democracy and parliamentary democracy dont mix buddy, I hope we never have another referendum in this country.

Referda needs removing from out poltical culture
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Ok :confused:
Double ok :confused:

Go on explain to me the beaɾ
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Well those voters are stupid then.
Yes. Yes they are. And yet, those particular, stupid people were allowed to determine the outcome of a vote on an issue they clearly knew nothing about. "The Will of the People!" though, eh?
It's like allowing a monkey to drive your car and then refusing to take the wheel from it when it's driving towards a cliff edge, saying "well, we decided to let the monkey drive".
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the Labour party is seen as a haven for people who hate the Jews ? that's kinda racist i guess ?

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Only by Tory propagandists. Not by rational people.

Vote Johnson, get Hitler. Which means that it is actually the Tories who hate Jews.
QED.
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Just the other day their minister said that employees should dictate to their employer how much they should get paid and the hours that they should work!
Didn't happen.
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the name Nazi comes from the German word for socialist.
Lol. No it doesn't. It comes from the German word for Brexit.
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the reason the race card gets overused nowadays is because of bigoted people who lack the ability/knowledge to make decent arguments without resorting to name call.
Didn't need my Acme Irony-o-Meter™ to spot that one. The irony is so strong I had to open a window!

We need to rewrite Godwins law for these people.
No, you need to learn what Godwin's law is. Clearly another thing to add to the seemingly endless list of stuff you don't understand.
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Funning I was just speaking of Godwins law
Yeah, but you were using it in the context of race, which is wrong. It applies specifically to comparing people to Nazis.
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they share a wish to destroy our traditional way of life and replace it with despotism. any fool can see that.
Hitler was trying to preserve and rejuvenate a traditional way of life.

Vote Hitler, get Stalin.
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And why is it common for non-white people to vote Labour, as if that's the 'normal' thing to do given their non-white background?

I'm non-white and growing up, I was always made to think Labour is good, Conservatives are bad. Old, white, racist people. My family members always voted Labour so I just thought that was the 'right' one. Now that I'm older, I'm kind of realising this is probably something I should look into more. I don't think conservatives are 'racist', or what so many non-whites think they are.
I'm a big Labour supporter and I always have been. I'm a Labour supporter because their policies, mannerisms and promises are those that I agree with. However, do not just vote for a party because your family tells you to. Look into ALL the parties, read their manifestos, look into the leaders and their mannerisms. If you feel like you want to vote conservative because you agree with their policies more, then do that. It's your right as a human being to have your say.

No matter what party you vote for, the opposition will have negative stereotypical views on it. It's the way of the coin unfortuantly. All I will say is, VOTE. Have your say and stay true to yourself. Like I said, I'm a big Labour supporter and I do have some negative connotations that spring to mind at the word 'Tory'... however, I'm an adult and I have some amazing friends from ALL backgrounds that vote Tory and I still love them regardless of that - in fact, if we all had the same views where would I get my debating kicks from, eh?

Just be informed, ignore the papers (as they're always bias), and have your say!
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All political parties are racist just they direct their racism towards different sections of society
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Labour policies tend to focus on support for the many and not the few. So they are interested in pulling up the little man rather than ensuring the rich stay rich, which seems to be the main plan of the Conservatives.

One point to note is that you should be careful of the media. Most are owned by powerful interests and will do whatever they can to keep the status quo. So they will portray the Labour Party or other parties as crazy lunatics, so people can vote for the Conservative Party and ensure they keep up with keeping the rich people rich.
Pretty much all of that post was just untrue and wrong on all levels. Its so wrong that I could no doubt write one hundred posts of 1000 words and you would never see the errors. You are on a totally different plane. You would rather the rich be poorer so that the poor would look less poor.

The Conservative government of today is unfortunately the most socialist it has ever been which will no doubt go down well with some Labour voters that think they should have everything for free. That said, the policies they have of free markets and capitalism help the poorest in society whilst rewarding those who work hard and do well, those who set up businesses etc.

Re. media that paint Labour as crazy lunatics, people don't need to read it they are intelligent enough to see it with their own eyes.
There are plenty of media outlets for the Labour party, the Guardian, Mirror, 'Independent' (if only it really was), the biased BBC Channel 4 that spend much of their pages trying to stir up the next anti Tory propaganda. The mere fact you think that all media is pro Tory shows the extent of your delulsion.
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And why is it common for non-white people to vote Labour, as if that's the 'normal' thing to do given their non-white background?

I'm non-white and growing up, I was always made to think Labour is good, Conservatives are bad. Old, white, racist people. My family members always voted Labour so I just thought that was the 'right' one. Now that I'm older, I'm kind of realising this is probably something I should look into more. I don't think conservatives are 'racist', or what so many non-whites think they are.
Ok bloomer
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