McDonalds staff strike for £15p/h + guaranteed hours Watch

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Guaranteed hours - sure.

But £15 p/h? The worker in the article feels "trapped" at getting £9.47 p/h, which is already more than the going rate for baristas, entry-level retail etc.

Don't McDonalds etc. get tonnes of applicants too? I'm all for it if every other job gets a fair wage bump to reflect their comparitive staff turnover and skills required.
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That's because this is socialist nonsense.
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(Original post by ozzyoscy)
https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/11/im-jo...erty-11071395/

Guaranteed hours - sure.

But £15 p/h? The worker in the article feels "trapped" at getting £9.47 p/h, which is already more than the going rate for baristas, entry-level retail etc.

Don't McDonalds etc. get tonnes of applicants too? I'm all for it if every other job gets a fair wage bump to reflect their comparitive staff turnover and skills required.
£15 an hour full time at McDonald's is higher than some graduates starting salary? Haven't read the article yet but that's ridiculous?
Edit: Read the article, expecting to get paid more than a graduate is just silly, guaranteed hours I agree with but £15? I'm all for increasing wage but I'd earn less after graduating uni than a 16 year old with 5 GCSEs then what's the point?
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Get a proper job lol
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£15 an hour full time at McDonald's is higher than some graduates starting salary? Haven't read the article yet but that's ridiculous?
I presume they're going high so they can be negotiated down to the real figure they want, but it's not getting much sympathy.

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Get a proper job lol
It's a job. If you feel the need to take the piss out of people who work for a living, then you've got issues the rest of the world aren't interested in.

Bet you'd tell someone to "get a job" if they were unemployed.
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It's a job. If you feel the need to take the piss out of people who work for a living, then you've got issues the rest of the world aren't interested in.

Bet you'd tell someone to "get a job" if they were unemployed.
It was a joke haha, I worked for 3 years in a pub-restaurant for first £4.05/hr, £4.20/hr and finally up to £5.90/hr and it was whack, but I put up with it because 'it was a job'. Why do maccies employees deserve almost 3x what I was paid for a job that probably requires less customer service and professionalism. I was just implying that a job that pays like that will likely require qualifications/trained skills?? Is that not okay???
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£9.47 is kinda low tbh, but how can you strike from mcdonald's? They can just get a supply of workers who will work for less.
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(Original post by ozzyoscy)
I presume they're going high so they can be negotiated down to the real figure they want, but it's not getting much sympathy.


It's a job. If you feel the need to take the piss out of people who work for a living, then you've got issues the rest of the world aren't interested in.

Bet you'd tell someone to "get a job" if they were unemployed.
I get what they're going for but if I saw McDonald's workers proposing for £15 hourly wage I'd dismiss the idea of a pay rise instantly, there's no way anyone could take them seriously with that.
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£9.47 is kinda low tbh, but how can you strike from mcdonald's? They can just get a supply of workers who will work for less.
Exactly, it's not like they can't be easily replaced by a bunch of 16 year olds.
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Seems like a crazy hourly rate but I'm sympathetic to workers being messed around on low hours / zero hours contracts. If you're on a low hourly rate you need a decent and predictable number of hours of work to be provided. Employers are getting away with too much in that regard imo.
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The question for any employer is can they get more than £15 an hours worth of work out of them and make whatever they consider a worthwhile profit on top of £15.

The alternative will be more mechanisation.
Lots of economists point to how if they're not careful, increasing the minimum wage can lead to the workers earning less.
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Exactly, it's not like they can't be easily replaced by a bunch of 16 year olds.
oh wait... :rolleyes:
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Let's be fair, while working there is a low skilled job, it's hard work and you have to deal with absolutely dreadful customers daily. Like f*** would I work there for £10 an hour. Plus it's a huge global chain making humongous profits, they can easily afford it.
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Let's be fair, while working there is a low skilled job, it's hard work and you have to deal with absolutely dreadful customers daily. Like f*** would I work there for £10 an hour. Plus it's a huge global chain making humongous profits, they can easily afford it.
Like many other jobs.
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£15 an hour full time at McDonald's is higher than some graduates starting salary? Haven't read the article yet but that's ridiculous?
Edit: Read the article, expecting to get paid more than a graduate is just silly, guaranteed hours I agree with but £15? I'm all for increasing wage but I'd earn less after graduating uni than a 16 year old with 5 GCSEs then what's the point?
This is now Labour's policy.

Bloody stupid idea. Raise the minimum wage, but not to £15/hour.
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This is now Labour's policy.

Bloody stupid idea. Raise the minimum wage, but not to £15/hour.
This is now Labour's policy. They'll raise it to £10 next year.
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(Original post by It's****ingWOODY)
Let's be fair, while working there is a low skilled job, it's hard work and you have to deal with absolutely dreadful customers daily. Like f*** would I work there for £10 an hour. Plus it's a huge global chain making humongous profits, they can easily afford it.
So £9.47/hour is loosely around £20K/ year. Now this is not a lot of money, but its low skilled work (more than plenty of other unskilled work, more than PhD researchers, more than lots of apprentices...)

TBH its not great but its ample, McDonalds corporate make most of their money via real-estate the in store profits really aren't really a cash generator for the corporate side.
Its the franchise owners that make the profit from revenue of each store and pay the wages: but they are actually a small or medium sized business owners who normally take this risk of rent, franchise & licensing costs (whilst providing lots of good low income starter jobs, great for part-time students etc.)

If the employees dont like it, why dont they go produce a business plan, get a loan and make their own McDonalds franchise and pay themselves what they want?
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£15 is way too much

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Get a proper job lol
People who say things like this are usually the first to moan when eastern european migrants come and 'steal all our jobs' aka the low paid jobs that noone wants to do.
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I've known loads of people that have worked for mcDs. The only ones that have still been working there after two or three years are management. All the rest saw it as a stop gap while training etc.
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How can McDonald’s claim to be a family restaurant when so many of their own workers and their families are living in destitution?

Not only that, Brexiteers make them clean their houses for nothing and without even a cuppa. I don't know, it's impossible to take these creatures seriously anymore and it' s frightening to see what the so-called education business is doing to the youth, progressively churning out vaster numbers of them completely sedated to the world and incapable of dealing with it. Yes, that's where all this crap is coming from through the phoney 'degrees' they flog.
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