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I’m applying next year but only want to put one London university down for Medicine. I’m torn between UCL and Imperial. Imperial has an international reputation as does UCL, as ‘London’s Global University’. I just want the place that will give me the best 6 year life there but also make me a great doctor. I like UCLs campus feel, and there’s loads of societies. Apparently imperial is moving their medical school and South Kensington campus? I’m completely torn. Is one better than the other?
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I’m applying next year but only want to put one London university down for Medicine. I’m torn between UCL and Imperial. Imperial has an international reputation as does UCL, as ‘London’s Global University’. I just want the place that will give me the best 6 year life there but also make me a great doctor. I like UCLs campus feel, and there’s loads of societies. Apparently imperial is moving their medical school and South Kensington campus? I’m completely torn. Is one better than the other?
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I’m applying next year but only want to put one London university down for Medicine. I’m torn between UCL and Imperial. Imperial has an international reputation as does UCL, as ‘London’s Global University’. I just want the place that will give me the best 6 year life there but also make me a great doctor. I like UCLs campus feel, and there’s loads of societies. Apparently imperial is moving their medical school and South Kensington campus? I’m completely torn. Is one better than the other?
What sort of environment do you want? Imperial is much smaller and filled with like-minded STEM students whereas UCL is much more diverse.
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What sort of environment do you want? Imperial is much smaller and filled with like-minded STEM students whereas UCL is much more diverse.
I guess I don’t mind too much. The idea of UCL being more diverse could be appealing? I just torn tbh
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I guess I don’t mind too much. The idea of UCL being more diverse could be appealing? I just torn tbh
Well I'm applying to both next year anyway so never really thought of choosing between them; both are BMAT schools and I'm only doing the BMAT and not the UCAT but if you do better in the UCAT it may be worth applying to king's college london or bart's instead. UCL and imperial are easily the most competitive med schools with raw applicant numbers and competitiveness - bear in mind oxbridge aspirants (like myself) will only apply to either oxford or cambridge but many of them (especially for medicine) will apply to UCL and/or imperial so its gonna be tough to secure a place; especially with the BMAT being as tough as it is. Good luck.
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UCL and imperial are easily the most competitive med schools with raw applicant numbers and competitiveness - bear in mind oxbridge aspirants (like myself) will only apply to either oxford or cambridge but many of them (especially for medicine) will apply to UCL and/or imperial so its gonna be tough to secure a place; especially with the BMAT being as tough as it is. Good luck.
Where do you get this information from? The most competitive med school for 2019 entry in terms of applicant to places ratio was UCLan at 32. Then Bristol at 12.1, Aberdeen 11.5, BSMS 11.3, ARU 11.1 and Nottingham 11. UCL had 10 and Imperial 3 according to the figures from the medical students council (which is made up of the med schools themselves)
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(Original post by km09)
I’m applying next year but only want to put one London university down for Medicine. I’m torn between UCL and Imperial. Imperial has an international reputation as does UCL, as ‘London’s Global University’. I just want the place that will give me the best 6 year life there but also make me a great doctor. I like UCLs campus feel, and there’s loads of societies. Apparently imperial is moving their medical school and South Kensington campus? I’m completely torn. Is one better than the other?
Imperial just made substantial changes to their course. Are those to your liking or not?

Why only one London uni? Why any? What has been your thought process so far?

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Well I'm applying to both next year anyway so never really thought of choosing between them; both are BMAT schools and I'm only doing the BMAT and not the UCAT but if you do better in the UCAT it may be worth applying to king's college london or bart's instead. UCL and imperial are easily the most competitive med schools with raw applicant numbers and competitiveness - bear in mind oxbridge aspirants (like myself) will only apply to either oxford or cambridge but many of them (especially for medicine) will apply to UCL and/or imperial so its gonna be tough to secure a place; especially with the BMAT being as tough as it is. Good luck.
I think you're gonna have a hard time arguing Imperial is "easily the most competitive med school"
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Well I'm applying to both next year anyway so never really thought of choosing between them; both are BMAT schools and I'm only doing the BMAT and not the UCAT but if you do better in the UCAT it may be worth applying to king's college london or bart's instead. UCL and imperial are easily the most competitive med schools with raw applicant numbers and competitiveness - bear in mind oxbridge aspirants (like myself) will only apply to either oxford or cambridge but many of them (especially for medicine) will apply to UCL and/or imperial so its gonna be tough to secure a place; especially with the BMAT being as tough as it is. Good luck.
Why are you not doing the UCAT? This will severely limit your choices and you've also recognised the BMAT is 'tough'?
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Ucl is so cool pick ucl
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do you just have to meet their minimum requirement?
For medicine your GCSEs will likely need to have many A*s.
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Minimum GCSE requirements are not a realistic metric to measuring how well someone's GCSEs will need to be; an extreme minority I would imagine would have little to no A*s that actually get in.
You have a vivid imagination. But no way of knowing the accuracy of your suppositions for Imperial as they do not look at GCSE grades once minimum requirements are met, so do not hold the information. For 2015/16 and 2016/17 nearly 50% of UCL offer holders had 4 or less A* GCSEs, so depends what you mean by "extreme minority" and "little to no A*s"
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https://www.imperial.ac.uk/study/ug/...cine/medicine/
also the fact that they are most competitive is based on a mix of anecdotal qualitative and quantitative data and most importantly: its just my opinion based on what I've read and been told, I haven't suggested that I am infallible.
have you read the small print?
*Numbers include students enrolled on Biomedical Science courses. Applications and admissions
data excludes Graduate Entry Medicine, Intercalated Medicine and Oxbridge Applicants.


I'm not impressed, Imperial!
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https://www.imperial.ac.uk/study/ug/...cine/medicine/
also the fact that they are most competitive is based on a mix of anecdotal qualitative and quantitative data and most importantly: its just my opinion based on what I've read and been told, I haven't suggested that I am infallible.
Ah! Guy said in the 6th Form Common Room - has to be true!
If you have data, please produce it. We love evidence-based statments. Not so keen on people presenting opinions as facts
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No. You are just being off-topic hence all the posts are binned.

I trust @GANFYD and her FOI sources a lot more.
2018 medicine FOI sources for imperial medicine aren't out yet and she never quoted a FOI reference to my knowledge; could I get a link to the FOI please? I don't see why you don't trust imperial's website's statistics as much though.
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Ah! Guy said in the 6th Form Common Room - has to be true!
If you have data, please produce it. We love evidence-based statments. Not so keen on people presenting opinions as facts
I never explicitly stated it as fact
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2018 medicine FOI sources for imperial medicine aren't out yet and she never quoted a FOI reference to my knowledge; could I get a link to the FOI please? I don't see why you don't trust imperial's website's statistics as much though.
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque...on_statisti_43
1316 applicants for 345 places

Have you read the small print detailed above?
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2018 medicine FOI sources for imperial medicine aren't out yet and she never quoted a FOI reference to my knowledge; could I get a link to the FOI please? I don't see why you don't trust imperial's website's statistics as much though.
Listen, I am out of this thread.

I just hate wasting my time - I am on TSR to help and chat; not to argue and certainly not to change stubborn minds.

Go and talk it out with @GANFYD, she just told you nearly 50% had 4 or less A*s in GCSEs.

Just remember, the original topic is "should OP choose UCL or Imperial - based on their society and campus", not "how good is Imperial" or "how good are Imperial applicants' GCSEs". All these posts will be binned at some point.
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have you read the small print?
*Numbers include students enrolled on Biomedical Science courses. Applications and admissions
data excludes Graduate Entry Medicine, Intercalated Medicine and Oxbridge Applicants.


I'm not impressed, Imperial!
where does it say that sorry? I may have missed it but can't find it.
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I never explicitly stated it as fact
You stated:
"UCL and imperial are easily the most competitive med schools with raw applicant numbers and competitiveness"
Not that you believe them to be, or some random person told you this and you chose to believe them. You made a statement that is presented as a fact.
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Well I was wrong, time to shamelessly dip boys
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