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Transfer to St Andrews: possibility? Classics

I originally applied for Law, and got a place at Manchester via UCAS Extra, when I finally decided that I wanted to do Classics. Therefore, I did not get chance to apply to St Andrews originally. Does anyone have any knowledge/experience relating to the possibilty of me transferring after doing my first year of study at Manchester? (I'd transfer, if it's possible, to the Classical Studies degree, as there would possibly be problems regarding the language modules.) My A-Levels meet their stated entry requirements and I would love to study there. I have e-mailed the university, but I just wondered if any TSRers could help. Thanks.

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Reply 1
You would have to be doing well at Manchester and be getting grades above those that mooch about first year. Other than that I think you have a decent shot at it. Check both the Faculty of Arts general requirements and the School of Classics course entry requirements to see if you tick the right boxes.
Reply 2
lucho22
You would have to be doing well at Manchester and be getting grades above those that mooch about first year. Other than that I think you have a decent shot at it. Check both the Faculty of Arts general requirements and the School of Classics course entry requirements to see if you tick the right boxes.

Okay. I meet the A-Level requirements at the moment -- and did additional A-Levels in my gap year, so very much hope to exceed them soon! I am a geek, and so planned to work incredibly hard at Manchester anyway, so that isn't a problem. I just hope it can be arranged, because as much as I love Manchester, studying at St Andrews would be amazing (and as Scottish degrees are four years long, I will still have enough time to build a strong social base there.)

EDIT: My most general question is, if anyone can answer it, do St Andrews accept transfers? Does anyone know if I would have to go through UCAS, as this would mean I would have to apply in September, before I even get to Manchester and so I won't be able to include my module grades at Manchester etc.
Reply 3
jismith1989
Okay. I meet the A-Level requirements at the moment -- and did additional A-Levels in my gap year, so very much hope to exceed them soon! I am a geek, and so planned to work incredibly hard at Manchester anyway, so that isn't a problem. I just hope it can be arranged, because as much as I love Manchester, studying at St Andrews would be amazing (and as Scottish degrees are four years long, I will still have enough time to build a strong social base there.)

EDIT: My most general question is, if anyone can answer it, do St Andrews accept transfers? Does anyone know if I would have to go through UCAS, as this would mean I would have to apply in September, before I even get to Manchester and so I won't be able to include my module grades at Manchester etc.


http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/admissions/ug/Applicationprocess/Howandwhentoapply/Transferstudents/

This should answer your questions :wink:
Reply 4

Thank you. :smile: It's good to know that transfers are accommodated. Though there is a lot of talk of academic transcripts and a second academic reference, which I won't be able to give them, due to not being at Manchester when I apply via UCAS.
Why do you wanna transfer from Manchester to St. Andrews? Do you not think it'll be a shock to the system going from a large city, to a small city (it's still technically a city 'cos it has a university?) where you can't even compare the nightlife to Manchester

edit: and the social demography is gonna be completely different too - if that bothers you or not?
Reply 6
hermaphrodite
Why do you wanna transfer from Manchester to St. Andrews? Do you not think it'll be a shock to the system going from a large city, to a small city (it's still technically a city 'cos it has a university?) where you can't even compare the nightlife to Manchester

edit: and the social demography is gonna be completely different to - if that bothers you or not?

Nightlife is not particularly my thing, if I'm honest. I am working-class myself, but I am happy with people from all social strata -- though I did go to a private school, which I suppose helps (a state school, two private schools and a state college in fact!)

Manchester, plain and simple, does not have as good a rep for Classics as St Andrews. The place also looks incredibly beautiful.
jismith1989
Nightlife is not particularly my thing, if I'm honest. I am working-class myself, but I am happy with people from all social strata -- though I did go to a private school, which I suppose helps (a state school, two private schools and a state college in fact!)

Manchester, plain and simple, does not have as good a rep for Classics as St Andrews. The place also looks incredibly beautiful.


Are you contemplating in transferring merely because the reputation for Classics at St Andrews is better than Mancs, or are there other variable such as you haven't enjoyed your first year at Manc (if so, why?), you don't like the big city thing? or you just fancy an extra year at uni :p:
Reply 8
hermaphrodite
Are you contemplating in transferring merely because the reputation for Classics at St Andrews is better than Mancs, or are there other variable such as you haven't enjoyed your first year at Manc (if so, why?), you don't like the big city thing? or you just fancy an extra year at uni :p:

Well, I've not even started at Manchester yet. :p: I do this September. I was just extremely surprised when I found out that it is 3rd bottom for Classics on the Times league table (admittedly only the better -- more traditional -- universities tend to do Classics) and the graduate prospects are dire. I have the grades that St Andrews is asking for and that is 5th best in the table with much better statistics all round. I know that league tables aren't always reliable, but there is quite a gap. Also, academia is quite important to me. :biggrin:
Reply 9
Can anyone else help?
Reply 10
if you can transfer from law to classics at manchester and then do well in your first year there, transferring to st-andrews shouldn't be a problem.
Reply 11
urethrar
if you can transfer from law to classics at manchester and then do well in your first year there, transferring to st-andrews shouldn't be a problem.

Well, it's not entirely the same, as I'm entering into the first year at Manchester -- I hope to enter into the second at St Andrews, so I'm wondering if they'll accredit the modules that I'll have done at Manchester.
Reply 12
you have to email the relevant admissions tutor and check the modules you have studied are compatible with the st andrews programme.
Reply 13
Anyone else with any direct experience, or knowledge that hasn't already been mentioned? (St Andrews haven't replied to my e-mail yet.)
Reply 14
I would stick at Manchester. Large city Vs Little village. No competition. St Andrews Classics can't be that much better than Manx.
Reply 15
Ed.
I would stick at Manchester. Large city Vs Little village. No competition. St Andrews Classics can't be that much better than Manx.

Yeah, though I have lived in Manchester for my whole life (Salford, but it's the same thing) and would like a bit of a change to be honest, if it's possible. I'm not too bothered about nightlife or anything like that, St Andrews seems to have more individualised teaching methods and it also looks absolutely beautiful (i.e. it would console me for not getting into Oxford for Law originally -- not that I want to do Law any more of course!)

Though, of course, if it's not to be, so be it.
Reply 16
jismith1989
Yeah, though I have lived in Manchester for my whole life (Salford, but it's the same thing) and would like a bit of a change to be honest, if it's possible. I'm not too bothered about nightlife or anything like that, St Andrews seems to have more individualised teaching methods and it also looks absolutely beautiful (i.e. it would console me for not getting into Oxford for Law originally -- not that I want to do Law any more of course!)

Though, of course, if it's not to be, so be it.


Fair enough, I wouldn't want to study near home either. St Andrews is beautiful. They also had the most friendly graffiti I've ever seen, on most of the walls in town some-one had scrawled "I love you"
Reply 17
Ed.
Fair enough, I wouldn't want to study near home either. St Andrews is beautiful. They also had the most friendly graffiti I've ever seen, on most of the walls in town some-one had scrawled "I love you"

That is sweet. Why would someone love a wall though? :p:
Dear God man, are you changing your mind again?! There's no pleasing you :laugh:

Honestly, I'm sure you'll like your course/university when you get there. Just try to enjoy it - there's no point anticipating that you'll want to leave before you've even got there.
Reply 19
IlexAquifolium
Dear God man, are you changing your mind again?! There's no pleasing you :laugh:

Honestly, I'm sure you'll like your course/university when you get there. Just try to enjoy it - there's no point anticipating that you'll want to leave before you've even got there.

I know! I think I like change too much.

That's true. I'm sure I will like it at Manchester; it's just that the statistics (I have recently found) for Classics at Manchester are pretty dire compared to St Andrews, and I have the grades for which St Andrews is asking. Also, of course St Andrews does look like a beautiful university. But if there is no possibility of me transferring, then I will of course in no way feel bad about being at Manchester, it looks like a great place.