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Time and time again we’ve seen communist and socialist societies fail, one of the greatest economies in the world, America, has been flourishing for generations. And guess what, it’s capitalist.

Look how many Russian millionaires and billionaires communism has made, while others are left behind to starve brainlessly following a multi BILLIONAIRE leader. Not exactly fair is it. And that’s exactly what our fate is if Corbyn gets in, the multi millionaire that expects people to brainlessly follow him for unrealistic promises he can never keep.
no america is not flourishing, and no that isn't communism. Russia is capitalist atm and China is said to be communist but really isn't
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As i was saying about views online, I always see left wing people attack right wing views, calling them intolerant, yet left wing people are the only ones I see giving unsolicited hate towards others.
Or maybe its threads like these which shows the limitations of the OP in that they cant imagine any individual having a view different from theres
or that in fact people vote out of self interest. You vote for yourself so allow other people to do the same without patronising and considering them to be idiots. Yes as you say its only ever left bad and right great. Ofc it is.
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So basically you just want money and screw everyone else.
Have you told your parents of your aspirations?
Yes of course,
Of course I told them that I want to set up financial security by aiming high, and of course I told them my main aspiration is to gain enough financial security to have a family, keep it afloat, and be able to spend time with them. After all (in my view) the main purpose in life is to facilitate the next generation. Only labour would like to take away all rewards of hard work, if anything were to happen to a child's parents in Corbyn's ideal society, the government would take all inheritance. Leaving the child without the hard work their parents did in order to help them!

Essentially leaving a child with nothing.
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So can anyone clarify on Labour abolishing tuition fees? What's the catch?
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no america is not flourishing, and no that isn't communism. Russia is capitalist atm and China is said to be communist but really isn't
I don't think he's aware of the American system and the debt people are unnecessarily in over there for the *crime* of being ill... That's just the cherry on top of the corruption over there though. At least I hope that's the case (that he isn't aware)... LMAO. Nobody can be that much of a mug. I hate to insult intellect but... Holy.
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people dont seem to realise that the current top level of earners pay the most tax and use the least services. They also provide jobs through the companies they own. How many people are going to be taxed to the hilt? they will go and live elsewhere taking their tax with them. then who will pay? the next rung down etc etc until eventually it reaches you and me.
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So if labour win are tuition fees abolished? Cos I’m in my first year of uni so does that mean if they win I won’t have to pay for my 2nd&3rd years?
You still will, in taxes, throughout your life, oh and you'll be paying for everyone else too,
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So can anyone clarify on Labour abolishing tuition fees? What's the catch?
the catch is everyones tax goes up to pay for it, so the people that chose not to go to Uni are paying for those that do.
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So can anyone clarify on Labour abolishing tuition fees? What's the catch?
The catch is that you'll be paying in your taxes, throughout your life, and for everyone, not just yourself.
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people dont seem to realise that the current top level of earners pay the most tax and use the least services. They also provide jobs through the companies they own. How many people are going to be taxed to the hilt? they will go and live elsewhere taking their tax with them. then who will pay? the next rung down etc etc until eventually it reaches you and me.
it takes 4 days for the average CEO of a FTSE 100 company to earn the same as the average full time worker over one year. A lot of people say that they earn their money because the job is demanding and tough but 4 days compared to a year, it doesn't make sense. you redistribute wealth from the people who have an advantage whether it be taxes or some other method that a humanitarian is yet to discover
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it takes 4 days for the average CEO of a FTSE 100 company to earn the same as the average full time worker over one year. A lot of people say that they earn their money because the job is demanding and tough but 4 days compared to a year, it doesn't make sense. you redistribute wealth from the people who have an advantage whether it be taxes or some other method that a humanitarian is yet to discover
then what encouragement is there for anyone else to obtain this 'advantage' if you work your ass off and it gets taken away. Once incentive is lost so is innovation. Then you end up with russia.
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i find it funny as well that in conversations about the high earners we always seem to focus on business people. Those that work hard and do provide opportunities for others. No-one ever seems to refer to big brother contestants or footballers etc. Or the film stars that constantly lecture us.
Just a quirk of the human pysche!

how many people who moan about the high earners also benefit from the products or services their companies provide?
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it takes 4 days for the average CEO of a FTSE 100 company to earn the same as the average full time worker over one year. A lot of people say that they earn their money because the job is demanding and tough but 4 days compared to a year, it doesn't make sense. you redistribute wealth from the people who have an advantage whether it be taxes or some other method that a humanitarian is yet to discover
What you don't understand is that for that ceo, overseeing a multi-billion pound company, and being good at it, makes them worth a lot of money to the shareholders.
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very true - often something that sounds appealing and too good to be true often is!
The early point about aspiring to be great. It stops you because it takes away incentive. If I said to you I want you to work a 8 hour shift but I'll only pay you for 4 I guess you wouldnt be very happy about it.
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What you don't understand is that for that ceo, overseeing a multi-billion pound company, and being good at it, makes them worth a lot of money to the shareholders.
oh I do understand that, profit maximisation - the underpinning of all neoclassical economics theory
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Yes of course,
Of course I told them that I want to set up financial security by aiming high, and of course I told them my main aspiration is to gain enough financial security to have a family, keep it afloat, and be able to spend time with them. After all (in my view) the main purpose in life is to facilitate the next generation. Only labour would like to take away all rewards of hard work, if anything were to happen to a child's parents in Corbyn's ideal society, the government would take all inheritance. Leaving the child without the hard work their parents did in order to help them!

Essentially leaving a child with nothing.
So basically you are all about yourself, which is fine. Why do you then have difficulty understanding other people might vote for things they feel benefit them? Why should they vote to benefit you? Are you special? Are you more deserving?
When you think about yourself it is great, when others do it , then it is wrong?
Why cant they want to look after their own families?

Why do you lie? Point out where they have said take away ALL rewards?
Point out where they have said they will take all inheritance in the manifesto?
The main purpose in life is not to facilitate the next generation.

You make me feel very sad for you and an immense amount of worry for your investment banking career. Society needs more of you. tell your parents to have more children.
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You still will, in taxes, throughout your life, oh and you'll be paying for everyone else too,
I won’t be in debt thou-calmmmmm
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people dont seem to realise that the current top level of earners pay the most tax and use the least services. They also provide jobs through the companies they own. How many people are going to be taxed to the hilt? they will go and live elsewhere taking their tax with them. then who will pay? the next rung down etc etc until eventually it reaches you and me.
Like companies are doing now over Brexit?
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So can anyone clarify on Labour abolishing tuition fees? What's the catch?
It is a claim they have said, the manifesto is out but havent read it. be cynical of all politicians though.
Always read the fine print. Will have a look later.
Politicians arent really to be trusted imo.
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i find it funny as well that in conversations about the high earners we always seem to focus on business people. Those that work hard and do provide opportunities for others. No-one ever seems to refer to big brother contestants or footballers etc. Or the film stars that constantly lecture us.
Just a quirk of the human pysche!

how many people who moan about the high earners also benefit from the products or services their companies provide?
valid points
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