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US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has announced that Israeli settlements on the West Bank don't violate international law.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...international/

What do you think about this apparent shift away from traditional American policy?

Do you think it has the potential to significantly impact upon the political landscape of the USA, Israel or European nations?

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Is it really a move away from their normal policy which is generally pro-Israel and whatever they do anyway?
Sure, saying it publicly may be a new thing but it doesn't seem that surprising in general
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Is it really a move away from their normal policy which is generally pro-Israel and whatever they do anyway?
Sure, saying it publicly may be a new thing but it doesn't seem that surprising in general
I expected the recognition of both Jerusalem as capital of Israel and the Golan Heights annexation.
Along with the US embassy relocation from Tel Aviv.
But I am surprised about the settlement announcement, particularly as regards the residential settlements on the West Bank.
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I saw the headline, It kind of seems like a bad shift IMO, but 0% shock or surprise given current global bedfouling.
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I can see a little brown smear on his nose.
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Is anyone really surprised? The Republicans love Israel and in their eyes, it can do no wrong. Trump probably knows it’s wrong but with the elections coming next year and the whole impeachment saga, he needs all the support he can get.
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I saw the headline, It kind of seems like a bad shift IMO, but 0% shock or surprise given current global bedfouling.
Maybe I should have guessed that it was in the wind.
Given the impeachment enquiry, large number of democratic party nomination candidates, upcoming american elections and apparent stalemate paralysing the knesset.
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I can see a little brown smear on his nose.
I hear that Mr. Pompeo is a huge fan of Chocolate Tiramisu.
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This is going to trigger so many leftists hahahaha
Napp don't cry corbyn lover
QE2 don't cry you triggered atheist
I've been triggering leftists, fascists and quite a few britain first supporters for a very long time. :cool:

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I hear that Mr. Pompeo is a huge fan of Chocolate Tiramisu.
Among other things it would seem. I believe the term, in their colourful language, is "cuckold"
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This is going to trigger so many leftists hahahaha
Napp don't cry corbyn lover
QE2 don't cry you triggered atheist
You're a weird little child :lol:
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Maybe I should have guessed that it was in the wind.
Given the impeachment enquiry, large number of democratic party nomination candidates, upcoming american elections and apparent stalemate paralysing the knesset.
I don't know how much it's time sensitive, although I won't deny that logic. But is Mr Pompeo really doing anything but confirming the international practical reality, rather than international law?*

I'm possibly a bit too cynical at this point, an election campaign of "Schools need less blacks and more guns" would barely get an eye roll.

(* - 'International law is probably the wrong term, stated policy might be batter)
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Is anyone really surprised? The Republicans love Israel and in their eyes, it can do no wrong. Trump probably knows it’s wrong but with the elections coming next year and the whole impeachment saga, he needs all the support he can get.
I was surprised.
If it had been an announcement of increased military aid or grants, I wouldn't have blinked at all.
I'm not suggesting that the Trump administration's decision is wrong, only rather unexpected.

Quite a few Democratic and Republican senators have close links with various pro-Israel organisations.
America has long been a staunch ally of Israel- under both Democrat and Republican administrations.
Since the 1960s almost every Democratic and Republican Party presidential nominee has sought to established dialogue with America's largest pro-Israel lobby AIPAC with a view to seeking their support or recognition as pro-Israel candidates.

According to the AIPAC website:
"AIPAC works with Democrats and Republicans"
"The United States Congress has provided Israel with the strongest support of any institution in the world.
Maintaining bipartisan congressional support for Israel is crucial."
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I was surprised.
If it had been an announcement of increased military aid or grants, I wouldn't have blinked at all.
I'm not suggesting that the Trump administration's decision is wrong, only rather unexpected.
In fairness, since Trump and his acolytes entered the White House its looked a fairly likely outcome, whats more surprising is they took so long about it.


According to the AIPAC website:
"AIPAC works with Democrats and Republicans"
"The United States Congress has provided Israel with the strongest support of any institution in the world.
Maintaining bipartisan congressional support for Israel is crucial."
I feel against would be a better choice of phrasing given the number of senators, of both stripes, they've railroaded in the past.
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US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has announced that Israeli settlements on the West Bank don't violate international law.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...international/

What do you think about this apparent shift away from traditional American policy?

Do you think it has the potential to significantly impact upon the political landscape of the USA, Israel or European nations?

Please let's keep this thread civil and not add to the mods workload.
Strictly no trolling, race hate, bible bashing or any other religious propaganda.
i dont think anyone has ever questioned if international law is morally legitimate. if there is no demos, to whom are the legislators of international law accountable to?

also, the Israeli settlements were seized from a no-mans land, abandoned by Jordan in a defensive war won fairly by Israel. Making compromises for Palestinian nationalism (remember arab nationalism = good, scottish nationalism = tolerable, english nationalism = evil) is a different issue entirely
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Doubt QE2 has ever been triggered on TSR.
How dare you!
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It's almost like they're trolling the grown-up countries.
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It's almost like they're trolling the grown-up countries.
wtf bring the Hitchens avatar back.
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wtf bring the Hitchens avatar back.
Starmer for PM!
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Starmer for PM!
I mean, agreed but Idk who you even are w/o the Hitchens avi.
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