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which a levels to do for medical physics

I have to do maths and physics, but I'm unsure which other a levels to do, I thought biology is good to learn about cancer cells and chemistry to learn about radiation, but I thought mabye further maths is good? then again now I think about it it might be better just to do those 4 with no further maths, but is 4 a levels too much? also in my sixth form if I did further maths I have to do it in another school and it's too much hassle, do you think I can get all A* grades with 4 a levels? is there too much workload? should I just risk it and then drop one if I can't handle it? anyone have a similar experience? is further maths better than biology/chemistry? if so which one should I drop? can somebody rank them most to least important for me and give me a reasoning please? here are my thoughts
1. physics (have to do it+obviously)
2. maths (have to do it)
3. biology (to learn about cancer cells)
4. chemistry (to learn about radioactive substances, although I don't really need to, but I might want to be a nuclear physicist as a backup job if I can't get into med phys so mabye this will be good...)
5. further maths (I think it's good but then again any maths I need would be taught in the physics course anyways, and if they don't require it mabye it isn't that important, also I don't want to do tons of maths, I need alot of variety, so I think this is an awful option)
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mabye it's obvious what I think (don't wanna do extra maths) but idk if I should do 3/4 a levels, and idk which ones to do lol, anyone know? I got tons of time to think but I just wanna get more info :biggrin:
sorry for bad grammar, I just don't bother on the web 😓x

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Maths and physics is a must (you actually learn medical physics in A level physics)

If you are doing 3 then I would say either Biology or Further maths, I think they would be more useful than chemistry for medical physics.

I would say pick Maths, Physics, Biology, Further Maths and then you can do one for AS and drop it if it is too much work.
For physics, you should be looking to do further maths. Miles more useful than biology and chemistry.

Are there degree programmes in medical physics? I'd have thought you'd take a more general physics course before specialising later on down the line. In which case, you definitely want maths/fm/physics, though strictly you only need maths/physics.

While the maths you need will be taught they still want you to have strong foundations going in. For this reason a lot of programmes would recommend FM if they don't require it.

If you don't want to do maths - you should seriously think about whether you want to do a physics degree. There is a lot of maths involved in a physics degree. Trying looking at an undergraduate level physics textbook in a subject you enjoy.
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Original post by chialgora
Maths and physics is a must (you actually learn medical physics in A level physics)

If you are doing 3 then I would say either Biology or Further maths, I think they would be more useful than chemistry for medical physics.

I would say pick Maths, Physics, Biology, Further Maths and then you can do one for AS and drop it if it is too much work.

is further maths worth it though? I thought that's only good if you're to be a mathematician? or are physicists in the same class as mathematicians due to the excessive use of mathematics? 😂 and I'm definitely doing 3, but wondering if I shouldn't do further maths as I'm set 1 out of 5 sets but not that good at certain maths (good at physics maths though), and not that good at chemistry (I understand effects of chemicals and radioactive substances etc though), so wondering if mabye just physics, maths, and biology is good enough?? it's just the basics but do you think it's better so I can try and get all A* grades? I need AAB with the AA in physics and maths and B in the biology (aka the extra science subject), I understand your reasoning for dropping stuff though, I'm wondering if I should just focus on those right now and then if i understand more maths/can grasp chemistry before choosing a levels (getting a good GCSE grade) like THEN I can think about it more u know? I'm just wondering about stuff lol, thanks btw!
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Original post by _gcx
For physics, you should be looking to do further maths. Miles more useful than biology and chemistry.

Are there degree programmes in medical physics? I'd have thought you'd take a more general physics course before specialising later on down the line. In which case, you definitely want maths/fm/physics, though strictly you only need maths/physics.

While the maths you need will be taught they still want you to have strong foundations going in. For this reason a lot of programmes would recommend FM if they don't require it.

If you don't want to do maths - you should seriously think about whether you want to do a physics degree. There is a lot of maths involved in a physics degree. Trying looking at an undergraduate level physics textbook in a subject you enjoy.


are you sure? I thought since they figure out where to target radiation that if anything biology is more important than chem+further maths. and yes! there are! not many though, just like 9 unis, and some only do masters courses, but I need a PhD to get a job apparently, so might have to do a PhD in nuclear physics or something! quite similar though, but nuclear physics focuses more on power mabye? I'm not too sure! and mabye you're right, I shall check about the recommended further maths in a moment. I understand your reasoning by the way, but it's the fact that I prefer maths being used in a way that I think is directly important and has a quick result, whereas normal maths doesn't seem to really teach me much, physics maths is just so much more interesting as it's easier to see what part of the equation does what etc, I was planning on doing that though! I'm going to buy a few near Christmas time, do you know any good ones? :biggrin:
Original post by csmlady
is further maths worth it though? I thought that's only good if you're to be a mathematician? or are physicists in the same class as mathematicians due to the excessive use of mathematics? 😂 and I'm definitely doing 3, but wondering if I shouldn't do further maths as I'm set 1 out of 5 sets but not that good at certain maths (good at physics maths though), and not that good at chemistry (I understand effects of chemicals and radioactive substances etc though), so wondering if mabye just physics, maths, and biology is good enough?? it's just the basics but do you think it's better so I can try and get all A* grades? I need AAB with the AA in physics and maths and B in the biology (aka the extra science subject), I understand your reasoning for dropping stuff though, I'm wondering if I should just focus on those right now and then if i understand more maths/can grasp chemistry before choosing a levels (getting a good GCSE grade) like THEN I can think about it more u know? I'm just wondering about stuff lol, thanks btw!

I dont think theres much radioactivity in chemistry (although you learn a decent bit about electron and atomic structures). If you're good at maths, further maths pretty much guarantees you an A* in Maths because it just makes you so much better at maths in general.

You could do 4 and go for the AS which is what I did, because it helped having a year to decide properly. But if you wanna save the trouble, I'd do Maths, Physics and Biology.
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Original post by chialgora
I dont think theres much radioactivity in chemistry (although you learn a decent bit about electron and atomic structures). If you're good at maths, further maths pretty much guarantees you an A* in Maths because it just makes you so much better at maths in general.

You could do 4 and go for the AS which is what I did, because it helped having a year to decide properly. But if you wanna save the trouble, I'd do Maths, Physics and Biology.


I see, so I'll definitely do Bio, Maths, and Phys, so I'll have a think about Further Maths, mabye my grades will be alot more improved by that time as I have a few years to go! let's hope so :biggrin:
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Original post by chialgora
I dont think theres much radioactivity in chemistry (although you learn a decent bit about electron and atomic structures). If you're good at maths, further maths pretty much guarantees you an A* in Maths because it just makes you so much better at maths in general.

You could do 4 and go for the AS which is what I did, because it helped having a year to decide properly. But if you wanna save the trouble, I'd do Maths, Physics and Biology.


nevermind! just did a quick Google and apparently Oxford and stuff requires further maths for normal physics courses, so if I do a fourth a level I might try both that and chemistry and I can either drop one or even both! does this sound good? am I allowed to do that? I'm still not sure I can do further maths as my sixth form doesn't do it so I have to go to another school which I'm not sure is a good idea as I won't be able to ask questions and stuff, I think it's an awful idea due to this... also my sixth form is probably the best in my area and it's hard to get into it but I'd be given a secured place since I'm already in the school, so should I not do further maths and try chemistry instead because of this? my school's chemistry might be better taught than another schools further maths? do u know what I mean? as in better teaching, better help etc
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Original post by csmlady
I see, so I'll definitely do Bio, Maths, and Phys, so I'll have a think about Further Maths, mabye my grades will be alot more improved by that time as I have a few years to go! let's hope so :biggrin:

What year are u in?
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Original post by chialgora
What year are u in?


9 - I know it's a bit odd, but I'm a bit of a weird person, I have been thinking about stuff like this for about 1 and a half years because I want to know more about it, nobody's telling me anything and I'm so confused
Original post by csmlady
9 - I know it's a bit odd, but I'm a bit of a weird person, I have been thinking about stuff like this for about 1 and a half years because I want to know more about it, nobody's telling me anything and I'm so confused


Wow I barely even knew what a university was in year 9. Just keep your maths and physics strong because those 2 are required at every uni for medical physics. 4 subjects in Year 12 isnt that much work but in Year 13 it can get hard.
Original post by csmlady
9 - I know it's a bit odd, but I'm a bit of a weird person, I have been thinking about stuff like this for about 1 and a half years because I want to know more about it, nobody's telling me anything and I'm so confused

Have you done GCSE physics? At the level of year 9 - all maths in physics is virtually basic arithmetic and rearranging equations. The A-level physics course is engineered in such a way as to not have maths as a corequisite. Therefore, the mathematical content is somewhat diluted, with no calculus or the sort. So again it's not really a realistic indication of how things are at an undergraduate level. It's really too early to cast judgement on whether you like maths or not yet. I hated maths when I was your age but now I'm doing a maths degree and love maths.
Original post by csmlady
nevermind! just did a quick Google and apparently Oxford and stuff requires further maths for normal physics courses, so if I do a fourth a level I might try both that and chemistry and I can either drop one or even both! does this sound good? am I allowed to do that? I'm still not sure I can do further maths as my sixth form doesn't do it so I have to go to another school which I'm not sure is a good idea as I won't be able to ask questions and stuff, I think it's an awful idea due to this... also my sixth form is probably the best in my area and it's hard to get into it but I'd be given a secured place since I'm already in the school, so should I not do further maths and try chemistry instead because of this? my school's chemistry might be better taught than another schools further maths? do u know what I mean? as in better teaching, better help etc

You seem quite self driven. I therefore wouldn't let teaching quality be a major deciding factor since you could completely ignore the class and work completely on your own. (basically what I ended up doing)
Original post by csmlady
are you sure? I thought since they figure out where to target radiation that if anything biology is more important than chem+further maths. and yes! there are! not many though, just like 9 unis, and some only do masters courses, but I need a PhD to get a job apparently, so might have to do a PhD in nuclear physics or something! quite similar though, but nuclear physics focuses more on power mabye? I'm not too sure! and mabye you're right, I shall check about the recommended further maths in a moment. I understand your reasoning by the way, but it's the fact that I prefer maths being used in a way that I think is directly important and has a quick result, whereas normal maths doesn't seem to really teach me much, physics maths is just so much more interesting as it's easier to see what part of the equation does what etc, I was planning on doing that though! I'm going to buy a few near Christmas time, do you know any good ones? :biggrin:

Dunno, it's a bit too early to specialise I'd think. I would say start on a more general physics course. Over the course of your degree you'll find out what you want to go into. Most maths is directly important, but the course doesn't really allow you to see that. Certainly stuff like calculus is directly applicable. I don't, sorry. I hear Feynman's notes/lectures are very good but they are pitched at a higher level than you're probably at.
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Original post by chialgora
Wow I barely even knew what a university was in year 9. Just keep your maths and physics strong because those 2 are required at every uni for medical physics. 4 subjects in Year 12 isnt that much work but in Year 13 it can get hard.


Original post by chialgora
Wow I barely even knew what a university was in year 9. Just keep your maths and physics strong because those 2 are required at every uni for medical physics. 4 subjects in Year 12 isnt that much work but in Year 13 it can get hard.


definitely! I'm good at physics but struggling a little in maths even though I'm top set, so I'll definitely work on that! thank you so much. and I see, so should I just do chemistry since my school doesn't do further maths and it's a hassle, and then I can try 4 and see what it's like? I suppose my GCSE results also play a VERY important role in this choice too though.
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Reply 15
Original post by _gcx
Have you done GCSE physics? At the level of year 9 - all maths in physics is virtually basic arithmetic and rearranging equations. The A-level physics course is engineered in such a way as to not have maths as a corequisite. Therefore, the mathematical content is somewhat diluted, with no calculus or the sort. So again it's not really a realistic indication of how things are at an undergraduate level. It's really too early to cast judgement on whether you like maths or not yet. I hated maths when I was your age but now I'm doing a maths degree and love maths.


ooh I see! I was like that with physics! I hated it and now I'm obsessed! I hope I can be like that with maths ahaha! thank you! good luck on your degree by the way! :smile:
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Original post by csmlady
definitely! I'm good at physics but struggling a little in maths even though I'm top set, so I'll definitely work on that! thank you so much. and I see, so should I just do chemistry since my school doesn't do further maths and it's a hassle, and then I can try 4 and see what it's like? I suppose my GCSE results also play a VERY important role in this choice too though.


I dont wanna directly change ur future, but yes that sounds like a good plan.
Reply 17
Original post by _gcx
You seem quite self driven. I therefore wouldn't let teaching quality be a major deciding factor since you could completely ignore the class and work completely on your own. (basically what I ended up doing)

that sounds like a compliment so I'm gonna say thanks ! but what makes you think so? I'm quite independent but when I need help sometimes it is easier doing it one on one, depends on which teacher, some just make it more confusing lol... did you study better in frees then?
Reply 18
Original post by _gcx
Dunno, it's a bit too early to specialise I'd think. I would say start on a more general physics course. Over the course of your degree you'll find out what you want to go into. Most maths is directly important, but the course doesn't really allow you to see that. Certainly stuff like calculus is directly applicable. I don't, sorry. I hear Feynman's notes/lectures are very good but they are pitched at a higher level than you're probably at.


but by the time I've done a levels, I'll surely know which degree to do won't I?
Reply 19
Original post by chialgora
I dont wanna directly change ur future, but yes that sounds like a good plan.


haha no worries. thanks! I guess I'll just see what happens when I do my GCSEs in year 10+11 then lol...

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