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I feel like this is a really really stupid question but if a guy has anal sex with another guy who doesn't want it, is that rape?
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I feel like this is a really really stupid question but if a guy has anal sex with another guy who doesn't want it, is that rape?
If it's non-consensual and they refused or showed that they didn't want sex, then yes, it's rape.
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Hi,

This isn’t a stupid question at all; to answer your question yes that is considered to be rape.
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I feel like this is a really really stupid question but if a guy has anal sex with another guy who doesn't want it, is that rape?
From this alone, I would say yes. Rape is to do with consent, it doesn't matter if you consent to the sex, if you have said that you specifically don't want a specific sexual act to take place on you and they do it anyway, then that's non-consensual and thus rape. I hope I'm clear enough in my explanation
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I feel like this is a really really stupid question but if a guy has anal sex with another guy who doesn't want it, is that rape?
Only if the second guy made it clear he didn't want it.
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Okay thanks guys!
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If the first guy didn’t really want it, but agreed to it (in order to please his partner) then no the second guy did not rape him as consent was given. However if the first guy didn’t want it and did not agree to it and the second guy had sex with him anyway against his will, then that is rape as there was no consent.
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If the first guy didn’t really want it, but agreed to it (in order to please his partner) then no the second guy did not rape him as consent was given. However if the first guy didn’t want it and did not agree to it and the second guy had sex with him anyway against his will, then that is rape as there was no consent.
If someone said no several times but the other person kept on persisting so in the end they said yes would you not consider it rape?
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Consent is not passive and consent is not the default. If you do not have any reason to believe that your partner is fully consenting to sex and you do it anyway, you are a rapist. It’s not difficult to ask for consent.


You should definitely not assume that someone wants sex until they don’t. Assume the person does not want sex until they say yes.
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If someone said no several times but the other person kept on persisting so in the end they said yes would you not consider it rape?
I’m not sure. I’d see it as wrong as the guy did essentially not agree to it however I’d be concerned that in court they may see it an consensual. I meant if the guy felt he didn’t want it, but decided to do it anyway (as can happen with asexuals when in relationships) to make his partner happy (out of love not fear). If he felt seriously forced into saying yes (as in out of fear or by manipulation in some way) then that would be rape as he didn’t mean it and didn’t want to have it. However if he felt making his partner happy (again, out of love, not fear) was more important than following his own wish then I wouldn’t consider it rape as he agreed based on his love/attraction to the person (that’s how I’d feel as an asexual). However I’d see it as rape if he was being severely manipulated / threatened by this person.

Not sure if I explained this very well.
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I feel like this is a really really stupid question but if a guy has anal sex with another guy who doesn't want it, is that rape?
Not necessarily rape no. If you clearly refused to have sex or was drugged/held down then yes that would be rape. But if you got drink, engaged in anal sex and regretted it the day after then no its not guaranteed to be rape.

The circumstances are everything here. The determining factor is the word "forced" was you forced? If you was that's rape. If not then its likely not rape but impossible to say without further details.
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Not necessarily rape no. If you clearly refused to have sex or was drugged/held down then yes that would be rape. But if you got drink, engaged in anal sex and regretted it the day after then no its not guaranteed to be rape.

The circumstances are everything here. The determining factor is the word "forced" was you forced? If you was that's rape. If not then its likely not rape but impossible to say without further details.
What a load of crap. Maybe the anabolic steroids have gone to your head.

Rape is about consent. Force is irrelevant. There again, alongside the threads encouraging people to take anabolic steroids you've also indicated that having sex with underage girls isn't necessarily 'a bad thing', so it's hardly surprising that you don't understand rape.

I find you an utterly repellant individual and the sooner the CT deal with you the better. You are a malign influence on this forum.
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What a load of crap. Maybe the anabolic steroids have gone to your head.

Rape is about consent. Force is irrelevant. There again, alongside the threads encouraging people to take anabolic steroids you've also indicated that having sex with underage girls isn't necessarily 'a bad thing', so it's hardly surprising that you don't understand rape.

I find you an utterly repellant individual and the sooner the CT deal with you the better. You are a malign influence on this forum.
Yeah, yeah, you're clearly just not so happy from our last confrontation in the previous thread

Lol who is CT? :rolleyes:

1. I have never encouraged anyone to take anabolic steroids. I simply answered any questions that people asked regarding them! Steroids are not illegal for personal use in the United Kingdom and people are going to use them if they want to use them. I genuinely hope the questions I have answered regarding anabolic steroids are going to help people in the aim of harm reduction. E.g if someone was going to run steroids and they was going to do it either way. Then I would far prefer they do it following the safest possible advice and safety precautions. This is called harm reduction!

- Many of my posts can be seen detailing the detrimental effects that anabolic steroids have had on me. Including destroying my thyroid, multiple intramuscular infections and many of other things. How this can be advocating the use of anabolic steroids I do not know

2. In none of my previous posts or threads have I ever suggested that sex between an adult and an underage individual would be right. I've actually suggested countless times that the very idea is repulsive. I'm a 24 year old guy, I approach women aged 18-25 on average. My previous fears would be that I would approach a pretty girl on a train, in a coffeeshop, grocery shopping ect and that she would be underage. As I'm generally attracted to women who are tall and slim. Many of underage girls can be tall and slim and it can really be hard to tell the difference! Which was why I asked TSR for advice.... None of this in any way suggests that I would be interested in anyone underage. And repeatedly have I stated that I do NOT want to accidentally approach anyone who is underage. What part of that is so hard to understand?

Just because my opinions differ from your own, get over it and move on with your day

Edit. So every escort who sees a client is being raped? Considering they don't particularly want to have sex but they are doing so anyway? Clearly not considering consent and want are two very different things.
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if they don't want tea, don't give them tea
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if they don't want tea, don't give them tea
Absolutely recommend that everyone watch the Tea Consent video.
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What a load of crap. Maybe the anabolic steroids have gone to your head.

Rape is about consent. Force is irrelevant. There again, alongside the threads encouraging people to take anabolic steroids you've also indicated that having sex with underage girls isn't necessarily 'a bad thing', so it's hardly surprising that you don't understand rape.

I find you an utterly repellant individual and the sooner the CT deal with you the better. You are a malign influence on this forum.
Hahaha its finally clicked. CT - Child Protection Services...

Reporting my posts to CT was a huge waste of time RC Considering A: I'm an infertile guy who has no kids and B: Because none of my posts have ever broken any laws in the United Kingdom nor have they suggested any interest in anyone underage, actually the opposite

What a waste of tax payers money hahaha
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Rape is about consent. Force is irrelevant.
I agree what what else you have said however I actually think force is quite relevant. Rape is when somebody is forced emotionally (through threat or manipulation), or physically to participate in sex.

Somebody could be/feel forced into verbally consenting or the rapist could have actually believed the person wanted to participate in the act (if the person was drunk for example they could be more easily emotionally/physically forced into it, possibly unintentionally giving indications of consent) and in some cases, somebody under the influence of alcohol/drugs could give genuine consent, wanting to participate in the act, though imo to engage in sexual activity in such a case could be very comparable to rape if the other person was relatively sober and could see the person was heavily intoxicated.

Although I’d assume the validity of consent given by someone who is intoxicated and whether or not they were forced into it is rather controversial (if their drink was spiked so the person didn’t intentionally get in this state, whether or not by the person engaging in sexual activity with them and if this person could tell they were intoxicated, I’d certainly argue they were forced and so this would be rape).
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I agree what what else you have said however I actually think force is quite relevant. Rape is when somebody is forced emotionally (through threat or manipulation), or physically to participate in sex.

Somebody could be/feel forced into verbally consenting or the rapist could have actually believed the person wanted to participate in the act (if the person was drunk for example they could be more easily emotionally/physically forced into it, possibly unintentionally giving indications of consent) and in some cases, somebody under the influence of alcohol/drugs could give genuine consent, wanting to participate in the act, though imo to engage in sexual activity in such a case could be very comparable to rape if the other person was relatively sober and could see the person was heavily intoxicated.

Although I’d assume the validity of consent given by someone who is intoxicated and whether or not they were forced into it is rather controversial (if their drink was spiked so the person didn’t intentionally get in this state, whether or not by the person engaging in sexual activity with them and if this person could tell they were intoxicated, I’d certainly argue they were forced and so this would be rape).
I appreciate what you're saying, but I'm talking from a legal standpoint. The definition of rape is very specific - it's penile penetration without consent (very broadly). I think what you're saying is very equivalent to this - that 'forcing someone emotionally' is equivalent to there being no consent and, thus, it being rape. The validity of consent thing is very interesting, but perhaps more from an academic legal point of view than from what the OP was intending
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Hahaha its finally clicked. CT - Child Protection Services...

Reporting my posts to CT was a huge waste of time RC Considering A: I'm an infertile guy who has no kids and B: Because none of my posts have ever broken any laws in the United Kingdom nor have they suggested any interest in anyone underage, actually the opposite

What a waste of tax payers money hahaha
No, CT are the site moderators
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