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So essentially the Labour manifesto is a free for all help yourself to public funds situation.

- Free internet
- As many benefits as you want no cap
- Free dental
- Free this, free that

So who is going to pay for this? Yup the workers are going to have involuntarily fund all this. People have short memories of 2010 when the final thing Labour did in office was to leave a note saying 'sorry the money has all gone, good luck!' and we want these clowns back?

Anyone who works and pay tax and goes for Labour is like a turkey voting for Christmas. Why bother working when Labour disincentivises working to the point where you are better off on benefits than working so may as well stay at home watching sky all day rather than doing some graft.

They have got no solution to the age old complaint from Brits that 'immigrants are stealing our jobs'. Choosing not to work is somehow acceptable under Labour, why?

Essentially the end of the manifesto should read:

Labour

Britain - A country where only fools work!
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Have you read the manifesto? I’ll quite happily pay more tax if public services are properly funded and not there to provide profits for a handful of people.

Why do you think an immigrant has stolen your job? And if you are jobless why do you think you’ll be better off under the conservatives?
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So essentially the Labour manifesto is a free for all help yourself to public funds situation.

- Free internet
- As many benefits as you want no cap
- Free dental
- Free this, free that

So who is going to pay for this? Yup the workers are going to have involuntarily fund all this. People have short memories of 2010 when the final thing Labour did in office was to leave a note saying 'sorry the money has all gone, good luck!' and we want these clowns back?

Anyone who works and pay tax and goes for Labour is like a turkey voting for Christmas. Why bother working when Labour disincentivises working to the point where you are better off on benefits than working so may as well stay at home watching sky all day rather than doing some graft.

They have got no solution to the age old complaint from Brits that 'immigrants are stealing our jobs'. Choosing not to work is somehow acceptable under Labour, why?

Essentially the end of the manifesto should read:

Labour

Britain - A country where only fools work!
Yup. If Labour get in which thankfully they won't thanks to that commie leader, I am leaving and not coming back.
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"age old complaint from Brits that immigrants are stealing our jobs"

LMAO, there's a reason the NHS needs staff from abroad, there weren't enough 'Brits' to fill the spots. Also, think in terms of employers, why should they hire you? A couch potato who's willing to lift their hand once every hour, whereas the immigrant will work ten times more for a tenth the price. Don't feel so self entitled and blame immigrants due to your laziness.
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"age old complaint from Brits that immigrants are stealing our jobs"

LMAO, there's a reason the NHS needs staff from abroad, there weren't enough 'Brits' to fill the spots. Also, think in terms of employers, why should they hire you? A couch potato who's willing to lift their hand once every hour, whereas the immigrant will work ten times more for a tenth the price. Don't feel so self entitled and blame immigrants due to your laziness.
Nothing to do with having no where near enough training places then? 😂
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So essentially the Labour manifesto is a free for all help yourself to public funds situation.

- Free internet
- As many benefits as you want no cap
- Free dental
- Free this, free that

So who is going to pay for this? Yup the workers are going to have involuntarily fund all this. People have short memories of 2010 when the final thing Labour did in office was to leave a note saying 'sorry the money has all gone, good luck!' and we want these clowns back?

Anyone who works and pay tax and goes for Labour is like a turkey voting for Christmas. Why bother working when Labour disincentivises working to the point where you are better off on benefits than working so may as well stay at home watching sky all day rather than doing some graft.

They have got no solution to the age old complaint from Brits that 'immigrants are stealing our jobs'. Choosing not to work is somehow acceptable under Labour, why?

Essentially the end of the manifesto should read:

Labour

Britain - A country where only fools work!
The issue with their manifesto isn’t that it gives some free stuff or nationalises some stuff it’s the amount of both!
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Nothing to do with having no where near enough training places then? 😂
So is this to blame the immigrants or the lack of funding from 9 years of tory rule?

It's funny how you bich about lack of training, then complain when Labour provides funding for training loool. Typical beer bellied tory, I bet you have 'brexit means brexit' tattood to your forehead while not understanding a single aspect of it.

And just to clarify, I don't support either Labour, Tory, or Lib dems. All manifestos are sh!t, but the least worst is Labour's..
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So is this to blame the immigrants or the lack of funding from 9 years of tory rule?
Immigrants have added to demand the cause of a lack of funding is a desire to spend what we earn.

You can fire your scatter gun approach to politics if you like but I have an answer for everything 😄

So you may as well just address the points I make in reply to you rather than ignoring and moving to something I didn’t comment on.
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Immigrants have added to demand the cause of a lack of funding is a desire to spend what we earn.

You can fire your scatter gun approach to politics if you like but I have an answer for everything 😄

So you may as well just address the points I make in reply to you rather than ignoring and moving to something I didn’t comment on.

You have an answer for everything. But every answer you give is riddled with fallacies and contradictions smh.
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You have an answer for everything. But every answer you give is riddled with fallacies and contradictions smh.
That’s interesting as I made one point and it’s plainly true. The places in training for those roles are extremely highly prized and there aren’t enough training places to fill vacancies.

If you can point out where the fallacies and contradictions are then be my guest.

Also try not to edit your posts after I have already replied to them.

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So essentially the Labour manifesto is a free for all help yourself to public funds situation.

- Free internet
- As many benefits as you want no cap
- Free dental
- Free this, free that

So who is going to pay for this? Yup the workers are going to have involuntarily fund all this. People have short memories of 2010 when the final thing Labour did in office was to leave a note saying 'sorry the money has all gone, good luck!' and we want these clowns back?

Anyone who works and pay tax and goes for Labour is like a turkey voting for Christmas. Why bother working when Labour disincentivises working to the point where you are better off on benefits than working so may as well stay at home watching sky all day rather than doing some graft.

They have got no solution to the age old complaint from Brits that 'immigrants are stealing our jobs'. Choosing not to work is somehow acceptable under Labour, why?

Essentially the end of the manifesto should read:

Labour

Britain - A country where only fools work!
Not a labour voter myself but they’re pretty much doing what you’d expect and first world western country to do. Taxes will still be lower than Scandinavian countries, France and Germany.... They have also provided us with the most detailed budgeting plan from all the parties.

All I can see is most people rejecting labour due to ideological reasons (SoCiALiSm).

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Not a labour voter myself but they’re pretty much doing what you’d expect and first world western country to do. Taxes will still be lower than Scandinavian countries, France and Germany.... They have also provided us with the most detailed budgeting plan from all the parties.

All I can see is most people rejecting labour due to ideological reasons (SoCiALiSm).

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A plan the IFS rubbished saying it wasn’t possible to get that amount of tax using their plans and their costs which are lower than what it would actually cost (see BT open reach) and then after the manifesto making a 58 billion pledge for pensions.

All the no.
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Not a labour voter myself but they’re pretty much doing what you’d expect and first world western country to do. Taxes will still be lower than Scandinavian countries, France and Germany.... They have also provided us with the most detailed budgeting plan from all the parties.

All I can see is most people rejecting labour due to ideological reasons (SoCiALiSm).

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Yeah but their plans have been shunned by pretty much anyone with any understanding of economics.

Plus I don’t understand this logic as the torys are pretty much planning on spending more here and there so obviously this is viable.

Labour on the other hand need to prove their manifesto is (and can’t).
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A plan the IFS rubbished saying it wasn’t possible to get that amount of tax using their plans and their costs which are lower than what it would actually cost (see BT open reach) and then after the manifesto making a 58 billion pledge for pensions.

All the no.
This. After all I can make a detailed plan about how I’m going to get with Margot Robbie. Just because it’s detailed doesn’t make it realistic.
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That’s interesting as I made one point and it’s plainly true. The places in training for those roles are extremely highly prized and there aren’t enough training places to fill vacancies.

If you can point out where the fallacies and contradictions are then be my guest.

Also try not to edit your posts after I have already replied to them.

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(Original post by robsole)
So essentially the Labour manifesto is a free for all help yourself to public funds situation.

- Free internet
- As many benefits as you want no cap
- Free dental
- Free this, free that

So who is going to pay for this? Yup the workers are going to have involuntarily fund all this. People have short memories of 2010 when the final thing Labour did in office was to leave a note saying 'sorry the money has all gone, good luck!' and we want these clowns back?

Anyone who works and pay tax and goes for Labour is like a turkey voting for Christmas. Why bother working when Labour disincentivises working to the point where you are better off on benefits than working so may as well stay at home watching sky all day rather than doing some graft.
So you obviously haven't read the manifesto then.

They have got no solution to the age old complaint from Brits that 'immigrants are stealing our jobs'.
But that isn't happening. It is just a xenophobic/racist trope, designed to appeal to other racists or idiots.
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Immigrants have added to demand the cause of a lack of funding is a desire to spend what we earn.

You can fire your scatter gun approach to politics if you like but I have an answer for everything 😄
So you may as well just address the points I make in reply to you rather than ignoring and moving to something I didn’t comment on.
You'll have to explain what that first line means, because it makes no sense to me.
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So essentially the Labour manifesto is a free for all help yourself to public funds situation.

- Free internet
- As many benefits as you want no cap
- Free dental
- Free this, free that

So who is going to pay for this? Yup the workers are going to have involuntarily fund all this. People have short memories of 2010 when the final thing Labour did in office was to leave a note saying 'sorry the money has all gone, good luck!' and we want these clowns back?

Anyone who works and pay tax and goes for Labour is like a turkey voting for Christmas. Why bother working when Labour disincentivises working to the point where you are better off on benefits than working so may as well stay at home watching sky all day rather than doing some graft.

They have got no solution to the age old complaint from Brits that 'immigrants are stealing our jobs'. Choosing not to work is somehow acceptable under Labour, why?

Essentially the end of the manifesto should read:

Labour

Britain - A country where only fools work!
The funny thing with your argument is that you dont want to pay more taxes, but you are more than happy to pay for everything with your meagre wages that the Tories have given you.

If you are not rich and you think you are better off with a struggling NHS, non-existent social services, poor education and so on, you are dim IMHO. Those who fund the tories dont have to suffer with you. The children go to independent schools, they dont need welfare and when they are ill, they can go private.

Please wake up. You are the ‘turkey voting for Christmas’.
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That’s interesting as I made one point and it’s plainly true. The places in training for those roles are extremely highly prized and there aren’t enough training places to fill vacancies.
If you can point out where the fallacies and contradictions are then be my guest.
This article from the Nursing Times earlier this year shows that not all places on nursing courses are being filled, so your argument is false. Nothing to do with immigration.

One of the main problems is staff retention, due to poor pay and conditions, caused by Tory cutbacks and austerity. Nothing to do with immigrants.
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All I can see is most people rejecting labour due to ideological reasons (SoCiALiSm).
Don't forget b0llocks like "cOrByN sUpPoRtS tHe IrA!"
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