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Anyone in here a Conservative voter?

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Original post by _ap12
Talking broadly speaking e.g at college or other social media platforms. Also the message by PQ was jut playground insults.Yes the conversation invloving IH8studying was fairly unpleasant from both sides. The thread simply asks Anyone in here a Conservative voter? no mention of justification.


Young people don't like tories because tories don't like young people - or anyone who isn't old, rich and white.
Reply 81

Could possibly be the rate of increase of debt.
Original post by The Mogg
I obviously do not have a fully set out plan in my head of what kind of privatisation I seek, I'll leave that to the actual politicians to set out, at which point I look and see if I agree. What I do know is our single payer healthcare system is unsustainable, simply throwing buckets of money at it will do very little. Privatisation makes all services better, and I'm confident the same would be the case for the NHS.

Like how the trains are better under privatisation? :lol:

Investment and restructuring is a far better solution for the NHS than privatisation which will leave the already suffering to suffer more because they can't afford basic healthcare. Furthermore digitisation would cut billions in expenditure and make the NHS for more sustainable.
Original post by _ap12
Could possibly be the rate of increase of debt.

That is still higher under the Conservative government when accounting for the recession.
Reply 84
Original post by tubphonecase
What? I'm not saying poor students are being forced to go to university. I'm saying that they're disadvantaged in university and that it is wriong to put poor people at a further disadvantage.
And university graduates earn on average 10k more than non-graduates, so a degree is important to stop the poverty cycle.
I don't really understand your last sentence but I'm assuming you mean that some universities offer lower grade requirements for low-rated schools. That's because those areas have worse schools will have worse teaching, meaning an equally capable student may get worse results because the go to a bad school. That's to equalise the playing field, not advantage poorer students.

Speaking anecdotally, me friend (we both go a state grammar school) lives a "deprived" area and has an offers reduced from AAA to BBB . Nothing to do with a low rated school in that case.
I don’t mean to sound ignorant and I, despite being labour, disagree with this strong anti-Tory culture in students. But can people explain to me what attracts them to the voting conservative?
Reply 86
Original post by tubphonecase
Young people don't like tories because tories don't like young people - or anyone who isn't old, rich and white.

Thats fair enough but not liking other young people who support conservatives is what I dont understand.
Original post by _ap12
Speaking anecdotally, me friend (we both go a state grammar school) lives a "deprived" area and has an offers reduced from AAA to BBB . Nothing to do with a low rated school in that case.

What university is that? Generally they're a grade or two.
Reply 88
Original post by DiddyDecAlt
That is still higher under the Conservative government when accounting for the recession.

Fairs
Reply 89
Original post by tubphonecase
What university is that? Generally they're a grade or two.

I thinks its either Durham or Warwick or both. That is also what I thought . Southampton too.
Reply 90
I am personally too young to vote and would never vote for Corbyn's labour party.
Original post by The Mogg
Well, a) As we earlier established I am 16, hence I cannot vote, and b) If I was able to vote and Brexit wasn't such a crucial issue, I would be 50-50 between Tory and spoiling my ballot paper, I am not a partisan Tory, give me a better right wing party which coincides with my personal views more and I'm off to it (Hell, if the Libertarian Party weren't so small and ran nationwide I'd probably vote them).

The Conservatives have brought us a lot less debt, which was left as a result of the past Labour government. Austerity is never a nice thing and nobody enjoys it, but it had to be done. They have also brought us much less unemployment, with the rate continuously dropping, all Labour could bring is mass unemployment with their ridiculous tax plans on businesses meaning they can't afford to hire as many.

Anyway, you tell me what is so glorious about Corbyn and his spending plans, plans which we haven't seen the kind of for years. Is it how the lower earners will be taxed more? or is it how the nationalised services will be of lesser quality than in the private sector? Sound like some great positives.


The people you support don’t care about minorities and don’t care about the working class. Don’t you want to vote for people who care about society and our wellbeing? do you want to support those who don’t care when your building is on fire? right wing don’t CARE. you don’t even need a brain to understand that.
Original post by JakeTSR
I don’t mean to sound ignorant and I, despite being labour, disagree with this strong anti-Tory culture in students. But can people explain to me what attracts them to the voting conservative?

I tend to vote based on national security, criminal justice policy, taxation, the economy and some London local issues.
I don't have any appetite for envy politics, class war, socialism, revolution or any sort of identity politics.
My parents were trade union revolutionary socialists and I don't share their values.

I've never voted Labour and probably never will.
I voted for the Lib Dems in the time of Nick Clegg but wouldn't vote for them now.
This election seems to revolve around either stopping Brexit or stopping Corbyn.
Original post by IH8Studying
The people you support don’t care about minorities and don’t care about the working class. Don’t you want to vote for people who care about society and our wellbeing? do you want to support those who don’t care when your building is on fire? right wing don’t CARE. you don’t even need a brain to understand that.


no politicians care about you regardless of race lmaooo. i thought you already knew this? when choosing who to put in government, its about who is the least garbage, not who is the best. as a minority, im sick of the mass immigration that is ****ing this country up so i will vote for whoever will get brexit done so we can focus on more important issues. what? thought it was just racist old white people who disliked massive influx of immigrants? think again
Original post by londonmyst
I tend to vote based on national security, criminal justice policy, taxation, the economy and some London local issues.
I don't have any appetite for envy politics, class war, socialism, revolution or any sort of identity politics.
My parents were trade union revolutionary socialists and I don't share their values.

I've never voted Labour and probably never will.
I voted for the Lib Dems in the time of Nick Clegg but wouldn't vote for them now.
This election seems to revolve around either stopping Brexit or stopping Corbyn.

Yea it seems nobody is voting for who they actively want, it’s just who they dislike least. I can’t see Lib Dems doing well at all, isn’t it that they wanted to scrap brexit altogether?
I think no matter on my personal situation I’d always be left wing, but Corbyn is pushing it a bit too left.
Original post by tubphonecase
Young people don't like tories because tories don't like young people - or anyone who isn't old, rich and white.

The Tories seem to like Shaun Bailey, Sajid Javid, Priti Patel, Kemi Badenoch, Zahida Manzoor, Nosheena Mobarik and Tariq Ahmad.
Reply 96
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Original post by londonmyst
criminal justice policy

So would you vote for the Tories considering they have single-handedly brought the criminal justice system to its knees?
Original post by JakeTSR
I can’t see Lib Dems doing well at all, isn’t it that they wanted to scrap brexit altogether?
I think no matter on my personal situation I’d always be left wing, but Corbyn is pushing it a bit too left.

The Lib Dems could do better than expected, if too many disenchanted Labour & Conservative supporters vote for them.
Jo Swinson is coming across as spiteful and too aggressive but all the remain supporting Conservative members and voters I know are saying they will vote Lib Dem.
Original post by DiddyDecAlt
So would you vote for the Tories considering they have single-handedly brought the criminal justice system to its knees?

The Tories have a great propaganda machine behind them in the form of the billionaire-owned media, but any substantive scrutiny of their record and policies invariably reveals their incompetence/failures.

Good read on how BJ's policies have damaged the CJS from a reputed (albeit anon) criminal barrister: https://thesecretbarrister.com/2019/08/13/dont-fall-for-boris-johnsons-criminal-justice-con-tricks/

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