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SoggyCabbages, Independent Candidate (5)
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Barnetlad, Independent Candidate (7)
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Aph, Independent Candidate (2)
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CatusStarbright, Independent Candidate (5)
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Spoil Ballot (3)
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1)Why would you campaign to stop Brexit and alienate a potential voting base who prefers remain but believes in following through with the result of the referendum?

2 )How can you claim to want to protect the environment yet pledge to make train and air travel cheaper - how do you reconcile these stances?

3)If you're adding BSL and computer programming skills to the school curriculum, what are you taking out of it?
Thank you for your questions.

1) I believe that on matters of Brexit, if we were to win another election then that is the democratic mandate from the people to ensure Brexit does not occur during our time in power. People have already voted for us to safeguard them from Brexit in the past and we will continue to do so, honouring the TSR Referendum we had in the process.

2) In freezing train fares we prevent prices continuously being raised to a more 'premium' level each passing year. By freezing them we can encourage more use of our excellent rail system, reducing the amount of traffic on our roads and emissions said vehicles give out. Air travel being cheaper for less frequent fliers also encourages more use of planes than previously which will help airlines economically and give more monetary headroom to meet new environmental guidelines set out for them.

3) Computer Science is already a GCSE qualification so there would not need to be a removal of any kind for that to exist due to its heavy programming based nature. It would be an equivalent to some schools making Religious Studies compulsory at GCSE level, like for myself.

BSL I feel would fit best under the MFL line of subjects along the likes of French and Spanish. There are thousands of students with zero interest in taking these languages as they feel there is no use for them in the real world (Britain especially). Sign Language, I hope, will be a fresh approach to languages that may interest some of these students in a way that languages has not before and I believe it would be a popular choice once introduced.
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we are the only patriotic option
oh yeah coz this country's great innit woo go uk
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You say that like it's a bad thing :beard:
Why is it controversial to say that the world as we know it is largely a good place?

Compare it to any of the egalitarian experiments akin to what your party and Labour wants to implement: Venezuela, China, Cuba, Cambodia. It is clear that your egalitarian fantasy will only lead to dystopia.
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Why is it controversial to say that the world as we know it is largely a good place?

Compare it to any of the egalitarian experiments akin to what your party and Labour wants to implement: Venezuela, China, Cuba, Cambodia. It is clear that your egalitarian fantasy will only lead to dystopia.
I'm not denying that large parts of the world are good, but that's certainly not the same as saying that it can't get better, nor that said good parts have anything to do with Tory policies! :holmes:

You've have to elaborate a little more for that to hold any merit, I'm afraid.
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Thank you for your questions.

1) I believe that on matters of Brexit, if we were to win another election then that is the democratic mandate from the people to ensure Brexit does not occur during our time in power. People have already voted for us to safeguard them from Brexit in the past and we will continue to do so, honouring the TSR Referendum we had in the process.

2) In freezing train fares we prevent prices continuously being raised to a more 'premium' level each passing year. By freezing them we can encourage more use of our excellent rail system, reducing the amount of traffic on our roads and emissions said vehicles give out. Air travel being cheaper for less frequent fliers also encourages more use of planes than previously which will help airlines economically and give more monetary headroom to meet new environmental guidelines set out for them.

3) Computer Science is already a GCSE qualification so there would not need to be a removal of any kind for that to exist due to its heavy programming based nature. It would be an equivalent to some schools making Religious Studies compulsory at GCSE level, like for myself.

BSL I feel would fit best under the MFL line of subjects along the likes of French and Spanish. There are thousands of students with zero interest in taking these languages as they feel there is no use for them in the real world (Britain especially). Sign Language, I hope, will be a fresh approach to languages that may interest some of these students in a way that languages has not before and I believe it would be a popular choice once introduced.
BSL as an additional option I would support but not as an alternative to MFL.
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I'm not denying that large parts of the world are good, but that's certainly not the same as saying that it can't get better, nor that said good parts have anything to do with Tory policies! :holmes:

You've have to elaborate a little more for that to hold any merit, I'm afraid.
I would think that my point is quite simple: empirical evidence shows that rampant egalitarian liberalism and socialism (which your party in government along with the Labour Party promotes) leads to those largely nice places becoming hell on Earth, hence we should stick to the status quo.

In even simpler terms, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
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BSL as an additional option I would support but not as an alternative to MFL.
Thank you for your input. When time comes to legislate on something like this we can ensure that the method for adding BSL works for the House as a whole, hence our vagueness on 'how' for it in our manifesto.
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Labour manifesto looks like an advert to give blood

Soggy has embraced full meme, including in font choice

Barnetlad on the minimalist design once again.

I enjoyed Aph's pun at the end, manifesto looking very similar to last time.

CVStarbright strikes again, a good manifesto nonetheless

Lib Dems have rebranded as the greens, if you couldn't tell

Libertarians moving away from the canteen menu and onto the stock photo route. Looks like a shampoo or dental care advert.

Can't see a Tory manifesto, that's handy.
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Labour manifesto looks like an advert to give blood
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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Lib Dems have rebranded as the greens, if you couldn't tell
I was hoping for more Plaid Cymru references by now but I'll take Greens
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I was hoping for more Plaid Cymru references by now but I'll take Greens
All about the #RemainAlliance!
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Manifesto design review.

Labour - Very much like the RL literature and that was probably intended in that it looks nice but one questions the originality here. 6/10.

Tories - A break from our usual design and quite nice i feel, the meatier part does perhaps look a bit cheaper than the top half. 6/10.

Soggy - Not a fan of the design beyond the background and i believe i have spotted two grammatical errors. 4/10.

Barnetlad - Plain and centered, spacing a bit big. Should have perhaps asked for help on the design in terms of making it an image. 2/10.

Aph - While it will do your reputation as a big girls blouse no good the overall layout and effort is logical and not too bad, you need a darker colour for contrast and your white highlighting makes some wording a bit harder to read. 5/10.

Catus - Professional, nice and well laid out. It is just an upgrade of previous efforts though. 7/10.

Liberals - As usual you have made a pretty good effort that kind of reminds one of spring, you could do to go for a brighter green and yellow though for contrast rather than the pastel shades used. 6/10.

Libertarians - A marked improvement on your effort at the last election which somewhat resembled urinated newspaper in design and like Labour a much more RL inspired leaflet design, nice and professional although i personally can't stand grey. 6/10.

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On this occasion i think that everybody bar perhaps Aph and Soggy did a pretty reasonable job but that the only one i looked away thinking how attractive it was, was Catus even if she was not all that original. For the parties i will narrowly give the win to Labour purely because i think when combined with their mini banners, it all looks good and gets the message across. I do think the manifesto from the last two elections was much better designed though and that most people only had small amendments to improve their score.

Well done Catus and Labour, Will do policy tomorrow.
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Right, rating the designs is a cool and hip thing to do apparently, so it's only right that the most cool and hip person in the history of forever ever does it :cool:(Also adding the Welsh names where possible because it makes me look hip and unique)

Labour/Llafur - Even though their previous design was used multiple times, I still prefer that to this. However, this still looks good. (6/10)
Conservatives/Ceidwadwyr - I will admit, not a huge fan of our design. But as a loyal tory, I will say it's absolutely superb with no possible improvements whatsoever (11/10)
Liberal Democrats/Democratiaid Rhyddfrydol - There's nothing like a bit of Plaid Cymru design, the manifesto speaks to my welsh patriotism, which earns them high marks. (9/10)
Libertarians - Although the design is nothing special in my eyes, "the jibba jabba stops here!" earns them high marks. (8/10)
Soggy - The design is meh, nothing better than a cabbage background, but the happiness of Soggy being back overshadows that immensely. (9/10)
Barnet - Now I'm a fan of simplicity, but including all the colours of the rainbow and giving me a headache takes away some points (5/10)
Aph - Regardless of the design being pretty good in my opinion, recycling old designs is worthy of negative points (-1/10)
Catus - Although the above should apply, there are subtle changes in this one which make it an exception, and it's Catus... (6.5/10)
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Vote Conservative - we are the only patriotic option that respects free markets and common sense cultural values rather than demented liberalism.
I thought you were the leader of the ”demented liberalism” party for a while...
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I thought you were the leader of the ”demented liberalism” party for a while...
I was, and remain, a conservative libertarian/paleolibertarian; I haven’t held socially liberal views for several years.
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To reply to the questions asked by CatusStarbright

How would you seek to reduce red meat consumption by a third in such a short space of time?

There are a few ways I would do this:
- An obligation on all restaurants, cafes and ready to eat food sellers to provide vegan and non-red meat options, at no higher prices than red meat
- A maximum size of some products such as burgers and an obligation to provide small sizes. So if you eat meat it is a smaller portion.
- An end to red meat in school meals and those provided on the premises of all parts of the public sector, on all trains, coaches and railway premises.
- An incentives scheme to make it financially worthwhile for red meat farmers to switch to other forms of food.
- Restrictions on those who do not produce red meat now, with protections for those who do, so as to reduce supply.
- At music venues/events, red meat products only to be served if the artists have 'opted in' to there being provided.

What would be in this separate driving test for large ‘Chelsea tractor’ cars, and do you think it's realistic to force out non-electric cars so quickly?

There would be a definition of what is a large car, which would have a separate driving licence category. To drive one you have to pass a test in one. As they are larger vehicles and the impact of a crash can be greater than a standard sized car, I would have the same medical standards as for buses and heavy goods vehicles.

I think that as there is much less need for company vehicles for non-goods purposes, it is realistic. Often a company car is just simply a perk. What I would do is ensure that this was only for cars not vans, and taxis/minicab changes are separate.

Why would you end zero hours contracts and the flexible working that the gig economy offers?


These are a form of exploitation, and do not allow most people in those situation to plan for things such as a mortgage, rent above a certain level, or to an extent practical things such as childcare. You can have a degree of flexibility with a minimum number of contracted hours per month.
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Right, rating the designs is a cool and hip thing to do apparently, so it's only right that the most cool and hip person in the history of forever ever does it :cool:(Also adding the Welsh names where possible because it makes me look hip and unique)

Labour/Llafur - Even though their previous design was used multiple times, I still prefer that to this. However, this still looks good. (6/10)
Conservatives/Ceidwadwyr - I will admit, not a huge fan of our design. But as a loyal tory, I will say it's absolutely superb with no possible improvements whatsoever (11/10)
Liberal Democrats/Democratiaid Rhyddfrydol - There's nothing like a bit of Plaid Cymru design, the manifesto speaks to my welsh patriotism, which earns them high marks. (9/10)
Libertarians - Although the design is nothing special in my eyes, "the jibba jabba stops here!" earns them high marks. (8/10)
Soggy - The design is meh, nothing better than a cabbage background, but the happiness of Soggy being back overshadows that immensely. (9/10)
Barnet - Now I'm a fan of simplicity, but including all the colours of the rainbow and giving me a headache takes away some points (5/10)
Aph - Regardless of the design being pretty good in my opinion, recycling old designs is worthy of negative points (-1/10)
Catus - Although the above should apply, there are subtle changes in this one which make it an exception, and it's Catus... (6.5/10)
If you believe in Welsh names and Welsh culture, then I hope you would support my policy of making Welsh devolution that of a Welsh parliament, based on the principle of matters being reserved to the UK government by exception, such as defence and foreign affairs.
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I was hoping for more Plaid Cymru references by now but I'll take Greens
If you believe in a Green voice and support for the policies of Plaid Cymru, vote for Barnetlad.

Os ydych yn credu mewn llais gwyrdd a chefnogaeth i bolisïau Plaid Cymru, pleidleisiwch dros Barnetlad.
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If you believe in Welsh names and Welsh culture, then I hope you would support my policy of making Welsh devolution that of a Welsh parliament, based on the principle of matters being reserved to the UK government by exception, such as defence and foreign affairs.
Believing in welsh culture is not the same or related at all to devolution, you can be a proud Welshman but still be against devolution. Our devolved assembly can't run a bath, never mind the NHS.
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Mr T 999 (Libertarians)
1. How will you 'defend people' from government surveillance?

2. What do you mean with regards to 'reactionary firearms policies'?

3. How will you ensure high-quality 16-18 education and affordable housing for our future generations?

4. Why do you want a budget surplus, and how do you reconcile large tax cuts with that commitment?
1. Prevent the state from spying on its citizens through the internet, for example.

2. People have the right to bear arms! guns were banned due to knee jerk reactions and evidence has shown banning guns failed to make the UK safer.

3. By introducing education vouchers to increase access to private education and reviewing/reforming A-levels to make sure they are fit for today's standards.
Reducing regulations around developments on brownfields site, thus, accelerating the development of new houses being built. This will allow the free markets to meet the increasing demand for affordable housing.

4. A budget surplus will allow us increased flexibility, lower interest costs and the ability to invest in future growth. If we were to enter government we will do a review of all departments and make cuts where necessary to fund our tax cuts.
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