Does Goldsmiths count as a redbrick uni?

No. The redrbicks were always the original six civic unis of England that taught real world skills as opposed to more liberal art curriculum of Oxford, Cambridge and Durham. They also placed no religious restrictions or tests on students compred to the three pre-Victorian unis. So the original redbricks were Manchester, Sheffield, Leeds, Liverpool, Birmingham and Bristol. All created during the Victorian age.

I would possibly include large, leading universities such as Newcastle and possibly Nottingham. Both have been around long enough and Newcastle was established as a medical and science/engineering college for Durham during the Victorian era and is very red brick in character.

Goldsmiths was created in the late Victorian era, even though it didn' have uni status, but it's far too much centred on creative disciplines and social sciences to be a redbrick

So, what label does it fall under if any?

Why must it have a label? None, as far as I'm aware. There's only the ancient/, Red brick, plate glass (1960s eg. Warwick, York, UEA) and ex-polys/new universities (the post 1992 unis). Durham doesn't have a "label" (some would class it as ancient as it's pre-Victorian but that's very misleading). Reading, being one of the few interwar unis, doesn't really have a "label" (though most call it redbrick). Most unis, certainly pre 1960s unis, don't really conform to any "label".

There's the 1994 Group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Group) but that doesn't really mean anything, it's just a collection of smaller leading research unis. I wouldn't use it as a label at all.

If you want to call it a redbrcik then go ahead, virtually any uni that's fairly traditional and solidgets called a redbrick these days. I just don't class it as a redbrick myself and would feel that to call Goldsmiths as one is quite inaccurate.

Fair enough. I guess it's just human nature to put everything in its own little box so we know what belongs where.

I understand, but isn't the University of London enough of a box?

Lol, i spent three years at smiths, trust me, the students would hate to hear it being considered a red brick, althouhgh i reckon it could be, but refreshingly its not filled with elitist idiots

Oh, cool. What did you study? I'm a history student at Goldsmiths and will be starting my 2nd year in September.

Fair enough. I guess it's just human nature to put everything in its own little box so we know what belongs where.

Where would Barts (1123, same age as Oxford) fit in then? Or the London Hospital Medical College of 1755? Or University College London, the original University of London in 1811?

Where would Barts (1123, same age as Oxford) fit in then? Or the London Hospital Medical College of 1755? Or University College London, the original University of London in 1811?

I would put goldsmiths in an incredibly designed, overtly cool (but cringes at itself for being so) box that was return addressed to "One of britains leading creative universities, where the freedom to explore is paramount".... in association with the 1994 group.


*sighs again she didn't put it as her insurance and prays if she misses her offer they'll let her in through clearing*

Depends on what you have applied for. Have you checked the Clearing pages?

Drama, and they don't usually.

But I think I'm gonna meet my offer with a bit of luck anyhoo......still would have been nice though cause my offer was unconditional.


*goes to check clearing page anyways*