Getting out of student house tenancy due to mental health Watch

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Hi everyone,
I posted something previously about leaving a student house tenancy in Liverpool as I was beginning the second year of university but I left within a month as there were some major problems with the other people I was living with. There was no other option but for me to come back home as I would not have been able to find any other accommodation as if I still have to pay the rent for the house I obviously can’t afford rent anywhere else. I have also been trying to find a replacement tenant for a few months but so far I have had no luck, and even if I did find someone interested the other students I lived with can reject having someone else move in (which they probably would).
I have been struggling with mental health issues for several years such as anxiety and depression which I am medicated for and obviously an issue like this has taken a major toll on my mental health and I am currently very upset about what has happened and how my life is right now. Even though I am trying to find work right now I am worrying about how I can afford to pay the rest of the rent.
Does anyone know if there is a way I can get out of paying for the rest of the tenancy on medical/health grounds? It seems like the landlords don’t really understand how much this situation has affected me and it seems quite unfair that they are expecting my money even though they can see I was clearly upset about what has happened
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No, not really. That's not how the real world works. The landlord has worked hard, bought a property, has rented out that property to you, in good faith, for a year, and legitimately sees it as your responsibility to pay for a year's rent or find a replacement tenant. I appreciate it's a worry, but that's adult life. You could take your tenancy agreement to Citizen's Advice, but just because you are depressed and anxious isn't going to get you out of the agreement. Otherwise, get the landlord onside to accept any replacement tenant you find and advertise in the Uni for people with January starts maybe?
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No, not really. That's not how the real world works. The landlord has worked hard, bought a property, has rented out that property to you, in good faith, for a year, and legitimately sees it as your responsibility to pay for a year's rent or find a replacement tenant. I appreciate it's a worry, but that's adult life. You could take your tenancy agreement to Citizen's Advice, but just because you are depressed and anxious isn't going to get you out of the agreement. Otherwise, get the landlord onside to accept any replacement tenant you find and advertise in the Uni for people with January starts maybe?
I know. I’m obviously not someone who can’t be arsed to pay the rent and obviously if I was living there I’d still be paying it, but it is a real struggle and it’s upsetting really what happened with the other students who pretty much ganged up on me about stuff that wasn’t my fault, even though I know that isn’t the landlords fault at all.
The landlords have said so themselves though that the other students are entitled to reject another tenant even if I find one which isn’t ideal
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yeah... no... that's not how the adult world works, you signed a contract and you're obliged to pay. It's also not fair that you want to take income from your landlord that they rely on. It's also not fair to expect your flatmates to live with some random they don't know or like. There's no fair outcome here unfortunately. But there is a legal one and that is that you have to pay your rent.
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yeah... no... that's not how the adult world works, you signed a contract and you're obliged to pay. It's also not fair that you want to take income from your landlord that they rely on. It's also not fair to expect your flatmates to live with some random they don't know or like. There's no fair outcome here unfortunately. But there is a legal one and that is that you have to pay your rent.
Also not fair that the flat mates virtually kicked me out of the house but hey ho
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Also not fair that the flat mates virtually kicked me out of the house but hey ho
Can you prove that? You may be able to sue them, but it's a long shot.
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Also not fair that the flat mates virtually kicked me out of the house but hey ho
I mean we have no idea what happened there. Also they physically cannot kick you while you're paying rent, they may be nasty but you could have continued living there and pushed for your landlord to intervene. If you left it was ultimately by choice.
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Can you prove that? You may be able to sue them, but it's a long shot.
don't really think the landlords would care about the situation that much tbf. i have told them a bit about what happened but they dont really wanna know
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I mean we have no idea what happened there. Also they physically cannot kick you while you're paying rent, they may be nasty but you could have continued living there and pushed for your landlord to intervene. If you left it was ultimately by choice.
yes they were pretty nasty to be honest with you. but i guess i panicked quite a lot about the situation and didn't really know what the best action to take would've been.
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yes they were pretty nasty to be honest with you. but i guess i panicked quite a lot about the situation and didn't really know what the best action to take would've been.
I can understand that. I've heard some horrific stories from people and having lived with a nightmare flatmate myself (just one tho) I can imagine how stressful it must be when they're all like that to you. Is there any chance of moving back in and continuing your course or have you missed too much?

Also have you checked your contract as some make all students liable for each other's rent which would potentially give you leverage to force your flatmates to accept someone as a replacement.

Finally it sounds ****ty but could you appeal to any of their parents to get them to accept a replacement?
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Hi everyone,
I posted something previously about leaving a student house tenancy in Liverpool as I was beginning the second year of university but I left within a month as there were some major problems with the other people I was living with. There was no other option but for me to come back home as I would not have been able to find any other accommodation as if I still have to pay the rent for the house I obviously can’t afford rent anywhere else. I have also been trying to find a replacement tenant for a few months but so far I have had no luck, and even if I did find someone interested the other students I lived with can reject having someone else move in (which they probably would).
I have been struggling with mental health issues for several years such as anxiety and depression which I am medicated for and obviously an issue like this has taken a major toll on my mental health and I am currently very upset about what has happened and how my life is right now. Even though I am trying to find work right now I am worrying about how I can afford to pay the rest of the rent.
Does anyone know if there is a way I can get out of paying for the rest of the tenancy on medical/health grounds? It seems like the landlords don’t really understand how much this situation has affected me and it seems quite unfair that they are expecting my money even though they can see I was clearly upset about what has happened
As posted previously, nothing you can do v the tenancy.
That said if you have evidence why your flatmates made it impossible to live there and evidence that they have refused at least 2 tenants unreasonably, then you might as well take legal advice on enforcing the covenants within your contract for them to accept any new tenant willing to pay the rent and having no obvious defects.
A law centre or CAB housing specialist could advise you better. The other side is to reduce the rent to make it attractive. I disagree with the bleeding hearts for the LL. Student tenancies are pretty much outrageous in England over them binding you in this way. Think Scotalnd has a much fairer system.
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I can understand that. I've heard some horrific stories from people and having lived with a nightmare flatmate myself (just one tho) I can imagine how stressful it must be when they're all like that to you. Is there any chance of moving back in and continuing your course or have you missed too much?

Also have you checked your contract as some make all students liable for each other's rent which would potentially give you leverage to force your flatmates to accept someone as a replacement.

Finally it sounds ****ty but could you appeal to any of their parents to get them to accept a replacement?
Yeah I’ve probably missed too much of my course, plus I’ve withdrawn already. But honestly there is no way I could live with them again it definitely got way too bitter. I don’t think there is anything in the tenancy agreement that says the other flat mates can pay my rent, think we thought it said that originally but I can check again. Also, I’m pretty sure their parents also hate me so wouldn’t want to talk about having another tenant 😂
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As posted previously, nothing you can do v the tenancy.
That said if you have evidence why your flatmates made it impossible to live there and evidence that they have refused at least 2 tenants unreasonably, then you might as well take legal advice on enforcing the covenants within your contract for them to accept any new tenant willing to pay the rent and having no obvious defects.
A law centre or CAB housing specialist could advise you better. The other side is to reduce the rent to make it attractive. I disagree with the bleeding hearts for the LL. Student tenancies are pretty much outrageous in England over them binding you in this way. Think Scotalnd has a much fairer system.
Hmmmm...the only evidence I could have used really was some texts that were sent to me from the girls about things they were blaming for, but there is probably no way of getting them back since I have been blocked by them all on everything! Yeah I agree, student tenancies are pretty bad here in England, they make you sign up for everything so quickly.
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Can you prove that? You may be able to sue them, but it's a long shot.
I think you'd struggle to make that argument when OP has also dropped out of the uni, presumably not something he can blame the flatmates for as well!
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Hmmmm...the only evidence I could have used really was some texts that were sent to me from the girls about things they were blaming for, but there is probably no way of getting them back since I have been blocked by them all on everything! Yeah I agree, student tenancies are pretty bad here in England, they make you sign up for everything so quickly.
My point was also about them unreasonably refusing a reasonable tenant.
They cannot do that.


This covers Landlord and tenant but your LL isnt refusing by default he is by saying the tenants have the say and they arent giving a reasonable explanation.
http://england.shelter.org.uk/legal/...ion_or_consent
Go and see a housing specialist @ CAB or law centre or shelter.

If you have evidence they have refused twice already then I think it becomes unreasonable. You can get court order to prevent them refusing and also to stop your LL giving them unreasonable last say. In the alternative ask to be released from the contract. Nothing to lose. The liability is going to be thousands. LL just wants his money.

Ask on these forums as well.
https://forums.landlordzone.co.uk/fo...-notice-period
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My point was also about them unreasonably refusing a reasonable tenant.
They cannot do that.


This covers Landlord and tenant but your LL isnt refusing by default he is by saying the tenants have the say and they arent giving a reasonable explanation.
http://england.shelter.org.uk/legal/...ion_or_consent
Go and see a housing specialist @ CAB or law centre or shelter.

If you have evidence they have refused twice already then I think it becomes unreasonable. You can get court order to prevent them refusing and also to stop your LL giving them unreasonable last say. In the alternative ask to be released from the contract. Nothing to lose. The liability is going to be thousands. LL just wants his money.

Ask on these forums as well.
https://forums.landlordzone.co.uk/fo...-notice-period
The landlords put in their contract that the tenants have a right to do that though. But whether that’s a rule they’ve just made up in their contract I don’t know. Currently I haven’t really had much luck finding a replacement tenant but obviously I would make sure it was someone suitable. But still, I know the landlord only cares about the money and doesn’t care about how I’m feeling and what affect this has had one me. I know this is also not the first or last incident that they will have experienced with someone moving out of a house early but still they don’t care lol
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The landlords put in their contract that the tenants have a right to do that though. But whether that’s a rule they’ve just made up in their contract I don’t know. Currently I haven’t really had much luck finding a replacement tenant but obviously I would make sure it was someone suitable. But still, I know the landlord only cares about the money and doesn’t care about how I’m feeling and what affect this has had one me. I know this is also not the first or last incident that they will have experienced with someone moving out of a house early but still they don’t care lol
Sure you said they unreasonably refused.

If the rent is £120 then offer it at £100 a week and work from there or offer it first month half price or 6 weeks £40 discount, which is a £240 hit for you.. Enough of an incentive for someone to take it over.
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Sure you said they unreasonably refused.

If the rent is £120 then offer it at £100 a week and work from there or offer it first month half price or 6 weeks £40 discount, which is a £240 hit for you.. Enough of an incentive for someone to take it over.
The rent was £83 a week, pretty cheap but it totals to around £355 a month and even if I’m working It’ll probably use up all the money I earn to pay for that rent. I’d pretty much like to cancel that standing order all together I don’t know if there’s anyway I can change the amount I pay for the rent and what trouble that could cause cus my dad is the guarantor so obviously I don’t want them taking money from him
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The rent was £83 a week, pretty cheap but it totals to around £355 a month and even if I’m working It’ll probably use up all the money I earn to pay for that rent. I’d pretty much like to cancel that standing order all together I don’t know if there’s anyway I can change the amount I pay for the rent and what trouble that could cause cus my dad is the guarantor so obviously I don’t want them taking money from him
It will go to the guarantor if you dont pay.
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