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Original post by ColinDent
Any victims of course deserve our sympathies and history shows us that we Brits have not got a whiter than white reputation, but as far as Mr Corbyn goes then he in my opinion did mix with the IRA
As did the British government and the security forces. But at least he didn't facilitate and enable terrorists.

and was very sympathetic to their cause
Many people support Irish reunification, including all of Ireland and half of NI. Are they all “terrorist sympathisers”?

at a time when the IRA were an ever present and very real danger to any UK citizen.
And how was that threat removed? By refusal to talk and military action - or by dialogue and negotiation?

There is diplomacy and then there is placation, the latter was what Mr Corbyn was guilty of and not a thing either yourself or Burton could say will ever change my opinion of that.
How very open-minded of you.

My point is that to move forward is what was needed,
But you’ve just condemned Corbyn for attempting to move beyond military occupation and terrorist violence. You need to make your mind up.

but the hatred of those involved for many of us will never cease,
So you’re not prepared to “move forward” then.

And yet again that twat raises his ugly head, because sectarian conflict is the issue in Ireland just like in the middle east, people arguing and murdering over a fictitious megalomaniac is the most ridiculous problem on our planet.
The Troubles were not about religion. They were about political representation and self determination.
Original post by QE2
Oh dear. The Troubles were not a "religious war", it was about republicanism/nationalism.


What are you on about? The DUP have only had any meaningful on Brexit impact since their deal to shore up the Tories after the 2017 election. NI voted overwhelmingly to Remain.


Wrong again. No one has claimed that the DUP represents NI. That is the main point. A minority party has been given unreasonable and unjustified power by the Tories trying to force Brexit against The Will of The People.


Most of Ireland is a different country to the UK, and has been for some time.


The spectre of renewed Troubles has only really raised its head since it because clear that the Tories would impose some kind of border in NI, against the GFA. It is not "Leave voters" who would be to blame for any resurgence of sectarian violence. It would be Johnson and the other Hard Brexiters.


A better analogy would be the psychopath whose violent urges are controlled by medication. If a bureaucrat stops their medication for political reasons, despite being told that it could be disastrous, any subsequent killing spree is partly the responsibility of that bureaucrat.

Lord you're special, are you saying there is no religious influence in the NI troubles? Are you seriously claiming it's a simple republicanism vs nationalism debate? :facepalm:

Brexit has realistically only been trying to get sorted since 2017 :facepalm::facepalm:

The UK government has given the DUP this power to speak for NI :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

The will of the people is to leave, which has been proven in every single national election, on 3 different systems since 2016! :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Correct and NI has already been treated differently to the mainland, do you even know what you are disagreeing with :bird:

The problem is checks on the boarder, not no checks anywhere in the supply chain, you seem to be agreeing with me on other points.

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