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Should I intercalate?

Right, i've got a bit of a dilemma, and am looking for some advice. Let me set the scene.

I'm a second year medic at Manchester and now comes the time when we have to decide if we wish to intercalate, do an extra year in another subject and get a BSC in that subject, all in the space of a year *magical* Obviously this would be good for my career in the future and it would also solve a problem I have, currently as of yr 3 I will be based at Preston hospital thanks to a stupid *supposedly random* allocation process based on your preferences. anyway thats another story but the short of it is, if I intercalate I get to restate my preferences for hospitals and it is highly likely I would remain in manchester instead of having to goto Preston.
The disadvantages obviously are the fact it's an extra year therfore cost but some help should hopefully be available.

Anyway i'm just looking for some advice.

NB. Possible subjects that interest me are:
Anatomy
Pathology
Neuroscience
Health Care Ethics and Law - i've no idea why, 2 weeks ago I would have said this would be the most boring thing in the world but I quite fancy it, but it would probably be pointless.

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Reply 1
Daveo
Right, i've got a bit of a dilemma, and am looking for some advice. Let me set the scene.

I'm a second year medic at Manchester and now comes the time when we have to decide if we wish to intercalate, do an extra year in another subject and get a BSC in that subject, all in the space of a year *magical* Obviously this would be good for my career in the future and it would also solve a problem I have, currently as of yr 3 I will be based at Preston hospital thanks to a stupid *supposedly random* allocation process based on your preferences. anyway thats another story but the short of it is, if I intercalate I get to restate my preferences for hospitals and it is highly likely I would remain in manchester instead of having to goto Preston.
The disadvantages obviously are the fact it's an extra year therfore cost but some help should hopefully be available.

Anyway i'm just looking for some advice.

NB. Possible subjects that interest me are:
Anatomy
Pathology
Neuroscience
Health Care Ethics and Law - i've no idea why, 2 weeks ago I would have said this would be the most boring thing in the world but I quite fancy it, but it would probably be pointless.


Do you plan to pursue a career in research? If you do, an intercalated BSc is probably the best thing you can do for the time being, and then possibly doing a PhD in a similar subject sometime in the future.
Reply 2
visesh
Do you plan to pursue a career in research? If you do, an intercalated BSc is probably the best thing you can do for the time being, and then possibly doing a PhD in a similar subject sometime in the future.

No, my intended career would be as a hospital doctor of some kind.
Reply 3
Daveo
No, my intended career would be as a hospital doctor of some kind.

Have you thought about a specialisation? If it was neuro/path then you should intercalate in one of those. If you haven't got any concrete ideas yet, I guess you should do the ethics/law option. I think that could be quite useful when setting up a private practice.
Reply 4
visesh
Have you thought about a specialisation? If it was neuro/path then you should intercalate in one of those. If you haven't got any concrete ideas yet, I guess you should do the ethics/law option. I think that could be quite useful when setting up a private practice.

Hmmmm......I can't cope with decisions like this :frown:
Reply 5
I've just done a 7 week option in medical law and defence and it was fascinating, one of the most interesting things I've done since startnig medical school. If it was me, I'd definitely go for the law/ethics one (let's face it, you've got the rest of your life to look at anatomy) but that's just me.

If it helps (and it probably won't) a few of my friends intercalated in 3rd year and almost all now regret doing so - with 1 exception, they didn't do as well in their intercalated degrees as they'd expected to, although it'd probably be different for you (at Sheffield the intercalated degree is a BMedSci rather than a BSc - long story - but basically it means more self-taught/research stuff which is harder). They also all found it rather hard to integrate into the new year group they joined (the year below us is notorious for containing a few, ahem, troublemakers) and they're eaten up with jealousy that we're coming up to graduation now.

The main reason I didn't intercalate is because I'm not motivated enough (as I said, a BMedSci is largely self-taught) but if I'd had the chance to do a BSc it might've been different.

Sorry, that probably hasn't helped at all...
Reply 6
I think the key issues are really whether you have the interest/motivation, and whether you want to swap year groups to be honest.

Also, find out what intercalating in each of the areas will entail. Do yoiu know anything about the project supervisors?

I know my intercalation was different as it was compulsory, and I had little choice in what I did, however, mine was a rather lonely 9/12 as basically stuck at home or the library with a forests worth of research papers, questionnaires, and databases. It was however a good experience in terms of research, as it's becoming increasingly important to do this as an SHO/Reg.

If you're very motivated, it could be a good experience. My time of intercalating was less hard core than the rest of medschool has/will be, and I enjoyed being able to organise my own time, and get to do things I wouldn't have otherwise done.

I think ethics&law would be a realy valuable BSc... wish I'd have had that option!
Reply 7
Daveo
Right, i've got a bit of a dilemma, and am looking for some advice. Let me set the scene.

I'm a second year medic at Manchester and now comes the time when we have to decide if we wish to intercalate, do an extra year in another subject and get a BSC in that subject, all in the space of a year *magical* Obviously this would be good for my career in the future and it would also solve a problem I have, currently as of yr 3 I will be based at Preston hospital thanks to a stupid *supposedly random* allocation process based on your preferences. anyway thats another story but the short of it is, if I intercalate I get to restate my preferences for hospitals and it is highly likely I would remain in manchester instead of having to goto Preston.
The disadvantages obviously are the fact it's an extra year therfore cost but some help should hopefully be available.

Anyway i'm just looking for some advice.

NB. Possible subjects that interest me are:
Anatomy
Pathology
Neuroscience
Health Care Ethics and Law - i've no idea why, 2 weeks ago I would have said this would be the most boring thing in the world but I quite fancy it, but it would probably be pointless.



I pretty much know how you feel, it's coming up to the time where we need to decide as well :eek: I decided last week thought that i'm definitely going to intercalate because I've spoken to several cardiac surgeons / neurosurgeons who have said that it would be an advantage when applying for competitive surgery registrar jobs. so many people seem to have BSc/BMedScis these days anyway!

as most people have said to me, if you can do it, then do it! (providing you work hard and get a 1st/2.1 and actually have an interest in science in the first place!)
Reply 8
My next door neighbour was a GP for many years and when her children were in secondary school she had had enough of being a GP. So she took a year out to do a Law conversion course at our nearest Uni and specialised in medical ethics - she is currently finding the medical training plus Law really interesting and has got a good job lined up. So, doing this change at this stage could provide you with an alternative direction which can still have a use for any medical training.
Reply 9
timeofyourlife
(providing you work hard and get a 1st/2.1 and actually have an interest in science in the first place!)


That was the problem some of my friends experienced - despite working their asses off, they only got 2.2's (which they considered made it a total waste of their time...)
In fairness, as I said before, BSc's are a different thing to BMedSci's (and had I had the option to do a BSc, I might have done it if I could do the ethics/law one you mentioned, or psychology...)
Reply 10
It's not impossible to do well though - I got a 1st
Reply 11
joyabbott
I got a 1st


any excuse to slip it in eh, joy? :wink: :tongue:

Edit: anyway, back on topic, i'm thinking about intercalating in a different university (!) it's not that unheard of apparently.
Reply 12
timeofyourlife
any excuse to slip it in eh, joy? :wink: :tongue:

Edit: anyway, back on topic, i'm thinking about intercalating in a different university (!) it's not that unheard of apparently.

to which uni?

do you apply independently or through UCAS?
Reply 13
hihihihi
to which uni?

do you apply independently or through UCAS?


i'm looking at london universities which offer the course i want to do. application is independent and there is no UCAS involved at all thankfully! bristol has sent quite a few people all over the place over the past couple of years so i'm just considering it as an option atm.

Edit: I'm planning to work hard and get a good mark in my january exams which should help, application is based on how well you do in the 2nd MB.
Reply 14
Oh! If it were my choice I'd go for Ethics and Law - with that under your belt you could do 'Expert Witness' work in criminal and civil cases - kerching!

It would also probably make you a better, more ethically aware doc :wink: :smile:
Reply 15
Fluffy
It would also probably make you a better, more ethically aware doc :wink: :smile:


I don't know about Daveo, but i think i could do without the ethics - i was the stereotypical awkward guy in my group who used to argue with the tutor :rolleyes:
Reply 16
pointless response to your question..

but, damnit.. i want to do ethics & law.. you have way more fun 3rd year options! :tongue:
Reply 17
I'm hoping to do a Ethics and Law SSM next term. I hope they're not too popular!
Reply 18
joyabbott
It's not impossible to do well though - I got a 1st


Hey, hey, I never said it was impossible to do well! Maybe I just have stupid friends! *hopes none of them will read this!* Also, AFAIK, at Nottingham you do BSc's, whereas as I said before, at Sheffield it's BMedSci's and they are quite different...

And TOYL, yes, it's pretty common to intercalate somewhere else. Two people in my year intercalated down in London and, in fact, one of them loved it so much she transferred to UCL permanently to finish her degree! Jammy! :wink: (I would've been tempted except for the fact I'm so sure I wouldn't do well enough in the exams...)

Fluffy, here at Sheffield our Law option is the most popular option in 4th year - I had to apply 10 months in advance to get mine! It was brilliant though, I thoroughly recommend it if you get the chance :biggrin:
Reply 19
Notts is a BMedSci also, though admittedly being compulsory, slightly different!

Sounds like some of you have really interesting SSMs to choose from! Jealous