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Incest...what is the world coming to watch

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    genetically its a very bad idea, as there is more chance of disease causing recessive alleles being expressed.
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    (Original post by Peter North)
    twin porn is amazing

    Im all for it, so long as both parties consent
    Are you a twin by any chance?
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    I actually don't really care. What's the point in banning it, when in that case no one found out? It's a case of morals. Cousins have been marrying since the start of time. Some religions consent to that. Royal families are all incestuous. I personally could never imagine having sex with my brother. The very idea is disgusting. It's not something that affects me and I think its more a personal decision hence I won't argue either case.
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    Frustration created from the whole thread. It's also my natural arguement style to attack ideas with sarcasm (suppose it is indirectly attacking the person. Not my intention exactly unless the other person blatantly refuses to listen to reasoning.)[/QUOTE]

    Actually, I veered off the subject of incest and was remarking, by chance, to my observation of rudeness in debates generally. I recognized the sharpness of the person's argument whom I quoted in the beginning and I admired his or her boldness in her views. I found that I had become conscientous not to make any offensively direct remarks about my views, and that sparked my comment of previous harshness and impolite comments about my statements, which clearly infused some amount of misunderstanding on your part as to what I meant.
    I just realized that there need not be the amount of hostility there is among the debating British youth - again, just an observation. I understand attack is important in debating - obviously - but I don't think an attack should be full of ruthless vehemence.
    I suppose the subject I was discussing should be debated in another thread.
    As for incest, I completely oppose it.
    As for your claims of using sarcasm as a retaliation, I don't find that improper at all. I just think you drew the wrong conclusions from my statements.
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    (Original post by Ang|ophi|e)
    I actually don't really care. What's the point in banning it, when in that case no one found out? It's a case of morals. Cousins have been marrying since the start of time. Some religions consent to that. Royal families are all incestuous. I personally could never imagine having sex with my brother. The very idea is disgusting. It's not something that affects me and I think its more a personal decision hence I won't argue either case.

    But would you mind your children having sex with one another?
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    (Original post by BNP Tasha Djanovic)
    Anyone should be able to do whatever they want to whoever they want as long as both are consenting.
    do you support the bnp?
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    (Original post by Tubby_F)
    But would you mind your children having sex with one another?
    Not at all.
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    (Original post by Tombola)
    Not at all.
    I am not even going to write a long message I am simply going to say you are completely disgusting, you actually sicken me I have read a lot of posts been, in many arguments but reading what you just wrote I have no words except to say as a human being you are vile.
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    not read everyone elses posts on here, but I did read that whole article. And I think it's horrible and wrong. Ofcourse everyone should be close to their family, but let's just say it was the girl sleeping with her father, would people see it the same way even if she was saying "but it gives us that connection that you can only have with family"? No, its abuse. and the fact that her brother felt her up when she was FOURTEEN and SLEEPY I think is pretty wrong. I'd still think it was weird if they were older and consented to sex etc, but at that age it is very wrong. Having siad that, I think most incest relationships start at a young age.
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    And the worst part is when people actually try to justify their argument with:

    Its two consenting adults so it’s fine

    I am not trying to stereotype here but if people living in tribal cultures around the world, who know nothing really of science and genetics, yet have long acknowledged that incest & inbreeding is wrong then wake up people...the fact that inbreeding causes so much genetic problems not just in humans but other species should turn the light bulb on that its definitely not what nature intends.

    It is wrong on so many levels and people who try to rationalise/justify/excuse it have something seriously fundamentally wrong with them.
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    (Original post by Tubby_F)
    I am not even going to write a long message I am simply going to say you are completely disgusting, you actually sicken me I have read a lot of posts been, in many arguments but reading what you just wrote I have no words except to say as a human being you are vile.
    Yeah, that's what I sort of expected.
    Thanks for your hatred, judgement and stereotypes. I can tell you are a very compassionate person.
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    (Original post by Tombola)
    Yeah, that's what I sort of expected.
    Thanks for your hatred, judgement and stereotypes. I can tell you are a very compassionate person.
    This is not about compassion and to be frank you will be hard press to find compassion from the mass majority of people who are not as perverted as you..You are literally like that guy in the bbc2 documentary who said he would allow his 9 year old daughter to have a relationship sexual & emotional with his adult friends as long as they both consented and are willing.
    ‘Compassion’ don’t make me laugh.
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    (Original post by Atlas of The World)
    Actually, I veered off the subject of incest and was remarking, by chance, to my observation of rudeness in debates generally. I recognized the sharpness of the person's argument whom I quoted in the beginning and I admired his or her boldness in her views.
    Fair do.

    I found that I had become conscientous not to make any offensively direct remarks about my views, and that sparked my comment of previous harshness and impolite comments about my statements, which clearly infused some amount of misunderstanding on your part as to what I meant.
    I just realized that there need not be the amount of hostility there is among the debating British youth - again, just an observation. I understand attack is important in debating - obviously - but I don't think an attack should be full of ruthless vehemence.
    I suppose the subject I was discussing should be debated in another thread.
    You've lost me... :no:
    My misunderstanding comes from attempting to understand your comments within the context of this thread, rather than generalised rudeness in debates.

    As for incest, I completely oppose it.
    As for your claims of using sarcasm as a retaliation, I don't find that improper at all.
    I don't attack people for opposing incest, however I do ask for their reasoning and if they accept that there aren't really any good arguements for going against it. Some people seem to have problems with accepting that.

    Think the last few comments in this thread proves my point that we recieve a lot more unneccessary abuse for our "Bold" views.
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    (Original post by Tubby_F)
    This is not about compassion and to be frank you will be hard press to find compassion from the mass majority of people who are not as perverted as you..You are literally like that guy in the bbc2 documentary who said he would allow his 9 year old daughter to have a relationship sexual & emotional with his adult friends as long as they both consented and are willing.
    ‘Compassion’ don’t make me laugh.
    I think if Jesus or Buddha was still alive today. They would not go against these people with such hatred.

    But I suppose you'd call them crazy and vile too :rolleyes:

    Thanks for more stereotypes
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    I am not a religious person and I doubt that any religion/ spiritual belief on this green earth would agree with you and people like yourself, who clearly do not know the difference between right and wrong...anyway I'm done with you
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    Meh.
    It has nothing to do with religion, my point are these people are known as some of the most compassionate people in the world. Those with spiritual belief may be uncomfortable about the idea, but ultimately they know deep down that there is nothing wrong with such relationship as long as there is "love". Love which is a fundamental pillar in most spiritual new age beliefs.

    You accuse me of not knowing the difference between wrong and right, that's just more baseless stereotypes. The whole idea of objective morality when you don't believe in religion is silly.

    PS. By the sounds of it at least I won't be the one attempting to kill these people and wielding knives against them, so much for right and wrong.

    Thank you very much. You have no idea of my moral compass.
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    saves time finding a mate i suppose
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    (Original post by Tubby_F)
    But would you mind your children having sex with one another?
    Of course I wouldn't want that. I said the whole issue is disgusting. But there are people in the world who do have sex with their siblings. And no one ever finds out about it because they know the amount of hate they would get. You can't control those people. If it can be done in the privacy of their homes, where no one finds out about it, what good does banning it do?
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    (Original post by Ang|ophi|e)
    Of course I wouldn't want that. I said the whole issue is disgusting. But there are people in the world who do have sex with their siblings. And no one ever finds out about it because they know the amount of hate they would get. You can't control those people. If it can be done in the privacy of their homes, where no one finds out about it, what good does banning it do?
    It’s banned to discourage it, to make sure people know that Incest is not acceptable,

    Children get molested in the privacy of their own home does it that make it right?

    People commit suicide but as long as they don’t hurt anyone else we should let them get on with it

    As long as the drugs addicts take heroin in private does that mean we should legalise heroin?

    You are basically saying that Incest between brothers and sisters, fathers and daughter, mothers and sons is ok; in fact it should not be illegal as long as it’s in private.
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    (Original post by Tubby_F)
    It’s banned to discourage it, to make sure people know that Incest is not acceptable,

    Children get molested in the privacy of their own home does it that make it right?

    People commit suicide but as long as they don’t hurt anyone else we should let them get on with it

    As long as the drugs addicts take heroin in private does that mean we should legalise heroin?

    You are basically saying that Incest between brothers and sisters, fathers and daughter, mothers and sons is ok; in fact it should not be illegal as long as it’s in private.
    Is it wrong to read a news paper in your house?
    Is it wrong to play on your computer?

    Clearly no. Why is that? Because these do not harm others, nor harm the individual themselves.

    All the above examples that you have provided are harmful to someone, not to mention your first example already goes against the idea of consenting.

    Let's hear your arguements for why incest is unacceptable, you have no real reason apart from eww.
 
 
 
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