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Poll: Who do you want as Labour leader?
Rebecca Long-Bailey (13)
15.29%
Angela Rayner (0)
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Clive Lewis (1)
1.18%
Keir Starmer (39)
45.88%
Jess Phillips (13)
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Emily Thornberry (5)
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Ian Lavery (1)
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Lisa Nandy (6)
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imo Starmer/Philips would be the choice but to reenergise and reconnect the Labour party, Lisa Nandy would be the most promising
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Lisa Nandy would be the most promising
I'm surprised that she won in Wigan.

What sort of name is Nandy anyway?
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Barry Gardiner has also declared.
Quite popular by all accounts
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Jess Phillips will laugh at any suggestion male suicide is an issue worth discussing. Terrible option as she intends to represent only half the population.
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Jess Phillips is the Tory favourite.

She would be even more unpopular than Corbyn.
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I'm surprised that she won in Wigan.

What sort of name is Nandy anyway?
Father is a Marxist academic from Calcutta, India (thinks she's right wing lol)
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Barry Gardiner has also declared.
Yes, he has union boss King Len's approval, I dont understand why though? Strange
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True. I worry that Kier Starmer may be viewed as a continuation of the London metro elite who don't care about the Workington Man. We definitely need someone outside the London bubble and one who can engage with the grassroots regardless of the political
leaning.

Someone like Angela Rayner or Jess Philips or even Lisa Nandy wont be accused on living the metro lifestyle since they come from the very towns that have been left behind by Tory cuts. From that point, we can then look for attributes that can be used against Boris Johnson. Corbyn was too exposed from being to London-centric to being to anti-everything. I mean he was an anti-EU politician until he became Leader and changed his mind.

Finally, I think Labour needs to be a proper left wing Party and not tory-lite. Many tories want Labour to be tory-lite so they win either way.
Bang on with your last statement, the tories are scrambling to label the last resort the rejection of socialist policies, and that just isn't true, I know it and they know it. Unfortunately the media is the exclusive club of the middle to upper classes and they will use this to continue to form opionion, against any progressive politics.

I'm disappointed, I dont know who I'll vote for. Never been a long-bailey fan, the more you hear of her the more you will realise she's not the person. Rayner is too aggressive and Philip's shot herself in the foot with her refusal to accept brexit. Starmer will be a disaster, we will stay below 240 seats with him. Iavery has ruled himself out......

We really need to wake up, even starmer is calling for the parliamentary labour party to accept brexit. I'm a member again and if Ed Miliband was to put his name on the paper I'd vote for him again come to think of it, I'd probably vote for corbyn over these lot.
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Bang on with your last statement, the tories are scrambling to label the last resort the rejection of socialist policies, and that just isn't true, I know it and they know it. Unfortunately the media is the exclusive club of the middle to upper classes and they will use this to continue to form opionion, against any progressive politics.

I'm disappointed, I dont know who I'll vote for. Never been a long-bailey fan, the more you hear of her the more you will realise she's not the person. Rayner is too aggressive and Philip's shot herself in the foot with her refusal to accept brexit. Starmer will be a disaster, we will stay below 240 seats with him. Iavery has ruled himself out......

We really need to wake up, even starmer is calling for the parliamentary labour party to accept brexit. I'm a member again and if Ed Miliband was to put his name on the paper I'd vote for him again come to think of it, I'd probably vote for corbyn over these lot.
I wont mind Corbyn again. If not, then Long Bailey or Lisa Nandy. I agree that it is difficult to know who to back, as they seem to have been lacklustre with no edge.

The tories have to scramble to demonise every candidate because they know that they wont win without their media pals playing the role of brainwashers.

Welcome back to the fold . It has been lonely without you on this side.

I think we should abolish the deputy leader position and allow the Leader to choose their team. It makes no sense that we have two power structures at the top, where one can sabotage the other, just like Watson tried to do with Corbyn.

A dream ticket will be Long Bailey as Leader and Corbyn as her appointed Deputy.
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I wont mind Corbyn again. If not, then Long Bailey or Lisa Nandy. I agree that it is difficult to know who to back, as they seem to have been lacklustre with no edge.

The tories have to scramble to demonise every candidate because they know that they wont win without their media pals playing the role of brainwashers.

Welcome back to the fold . It has been lonely without you on this side.

I think we should abolish the deputy leader position and allow the Leader to choose their team. It makes no sense that we have two power structures at the top, where one can sabotage the other, just like Watson tried to do with Corbyn.

A dream ticket will be Long Bailey as Leader and Corbyn as her appointed Deputy.
Lack luster with no edge is one way of describing them. Socialism will never get a fair crack in the media while the media is owned by billionaires.

Agree regards how the deputy is elected, I think that's like the American political system where Congress and the President can clash and nothing gets done. Not sure I'm with your dream ticket though, I just dont think those two will hit home with the electorate, we need to win mate firstcand foremost we need to get the tories out.
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Yes, he has union boss King Len's approval, I dont understand why though? Strange
Probably because of the three pure candidates only Long Bailey stands a chance and he clearly lacks confidence in her.

Gardiner and Ashworth are actually the only shadow cabinet members who I think could get 230-250 (Phillips being the only other candidate who could).

Starmer and Nandy will struggle to beat 230. Bailey, Lewis and Thornbury would be lucky not to head backwards.
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Long Bailey or Lisa Nandy are the best choices. Starmer is a good choice too. Philips is another Swinson, Lewis isn’t even a contender and Thornberry is decent, probably would be better as a deputy.
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Lack luster with no edge is one way of describing them. Socialism will never get a fair crack in the media while the media is owned by billionaires.

Agree regards how the deputy is elected, I think that's like the American political system where Congress and the President can clash and nothing gets done. Not sure I'm with your dream ticket though, I just dont think those two will hit home with the electorate, we need to win mate firstcand foremost we need to get the tories out.
There is no point winning by replacing the tories with tories. You need a proper leftwing leadership.
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There is no point winning by replacing the tories with tories. You need a proper leftwing leadership.
Imagine if Labour had a leader similar to Bernie Sanders. Tories would struggle in this state to retain an majority in the next election
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Imagine if Labour had a leader similar to Bernie Sanders. Tories would struggle in this state to retain an majority in the next election
Without addressing Scotland and the SNP it's going to be difficult to see how labour will get a majority, that's a major reason why we need a leader that's not a sliver tounged southerner, we need to reconnect with the north.
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There is no point winning by replacing the tories with tories. You need a proper leftwing leadership.
Agreed, is long bailey the person to deliver that? Dont forget most are not as politically aware as you and the few regular contributors on here.
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Without addressing Scotland and the SNP it's going to be difficult to see how labour will get a majority, that's a major reason why we need a leader that's not a sliver tounged southerner, we need to reconnect with the north.
and we have what now as a PM who has won a landslide including the north?, another Eton, Oxford dude descended from George II, politics is a very slippery business..

But agree that the north needs a lot more funding, London is literally the centre of power, government, and investment, with a 1/3 of the nations GDP unlike many other European nations e.g. Munich, Frankfurt, Milan etc.
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Imagine if Labour had a leader similar to Bernie Sanders. Tories would struggle in this state to retain an majority in the next election
Why is Sanders superior to any of the current candidates?
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Imagine if Labour had a leader similar to Bernie Sanders. Tories would struggle in this state to retain an majority in the next election
Sanders is a proper socialist. We need a Corbyn to take on the tories.
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and we have what now as a PM who has won a landslide including the north?, another Eton, Oxford dude descended from George II, politics is a very slippery business..
Yes however he only won on the Brexit card and his charisma. Say what you will about Boris but hes no snob, labour on the other hand had certainly characters who did show intellectual snobbery, that's not something we can over look.
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