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I’m currently preparing my application for the BPC. I’m looking at tackling the application as if I were applying for pupillage, by keeping it my paragraphs/points concise and providing evidence based points as to why I wish to undertake the course.

It’s been a while since I’ve written any sort of application like this, and have previously gone through the selection processes for training contracts and didn’t enjoy them, I found the applications overly complicated with strange, and often contradictory questions (too much of an emphasis on maxing the word count as well), as well as assessment centres featuring pointless tasks like building an animal or doing a completely irrelevant puzzle.

Whilst I appreciate I may well have to take part in exercises that I might not enjoy in pursuit of a career at the Bar during my application journey, from my reading I get the impression sets of Chambers focus a lot on your practical skills (they want to see this evidence is clear cut advocacy and public speaking), questions tend to be straight to the point at interviews (whilst also expecting similar responses with candidates’ answers), and are genuinely interested in you and your personality should you make it far enough to get an interview.

What I would like to know, amongst many other things, from other forum users’ experience is:

- Should I be concerned about maxing the 4000 word count in my Ulaw app cover letter;

- Is it appropriate to explain why I am choosing Ulaw over other providers;

- Whilst I’ve be working in the legal profession for many years, will it be appropriate (within reason) to use my mini pupillages from about 6 years ago as evidence of why I want to pursue a career as an advocate;

- I’ve had some experience in sales (short career), what would you recommend extracting from this as evidence I have the right skill set for the self-employed bar (I like doing the whole BD thing sometimes...).

Amongst all of that if you have any other pointers please post them.
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I’m currently preparing my application for the BPC. I’m looking at tackling the application as if I were applying for pupillage, by keeping it my paragraphs/points concise and providing evidence based points as to why I wish to undertake the course.

It’s been a while since I’ve written any sort of application like this, and have previously gone through the selection processes for training contracts and didn’t enjoy them, I found the applications overly complicated with strange, and often contradictory questions (too much of an emphasis on maxing the word count as well), as well as assessment centres featuring pointless tasks like building an animal or doing a completely irrelevant puzzle.

Whilst I appreciate I may well have to take part in exercises that I might not enjoy in pursuit of a career at the Bar during my application journey, from my reading I get the impression sets of Chambers focus a lot on your practical skills (they want to see this evidence is clear cut advocacy and public speaking), questions tend to be straight to the point at interviews (whilst also expecting similar responses with candidates’ answers), and are genuinely interested in you and your personality should you make it far enough to get an interview.

What I would like to know, amongst many other things, from other forum users’ experience is:

- Should I be concerned about maxing the 4000 word count in my Ulaw app cover letter;

- Is it appropriate to explain why I am choosing Ulaw over other providers;

- Whilst I’ve be working in the legal profession for many years, will it be appropriate (within reason) to use my mini pupillages from about 6 years ago as evidence of why I want to pursue a career as an advocate;

- I’ve had some experience in sales (short career), what would you recommend extracting from this as evidence I have the right skill set for the self-employed bar (I like doing the whole BD thing sometimes...).

Amongst all of that if you have any other pointers please post them.
Bump - only because I'm finishing a first draft this weekend and I'll like some thoughts.
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Hey there, you may be interested the BPC applications thread: https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho...highlight=Bptc

Is ULaw the only provider you are applying to?
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Hey there, you may be interested the BPC applications thread: https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho...highlight=Bptc

Is ULaw the only provider you are applying to?
I think so. Whilst it probably shouldn't matter, I'm finding the word count off-putting in that I feel like I'm not putting enough down on paper as they allow 4000 words for the cover letter, but I could be over thinking it. But I really liked the open day, and the fact their LLM has a specialist pro bono route.

I was about to apply to BPP but their online open day didn't really draw me in. When compared with Ulaw, I didn't like BPP selection process, with it being all online and stuff I wasn't 100% about doing an advocacy course where I would be starting by recording myself on my phone/laptop to give a presentation on something/anything. The selection process for Ulaw seemed to suit me better, but am I shooting myself in the foot by only making one application.

City was not an option because it's too expensive, I can't afford it.
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Whilst it probably shouldn't matter, I'm finding the word count off-putting in that I feel like I'm not putting enough down on paper as they allow 4000 words for the cover letter, but I could be over thinking it.
I haven't applied to ULaw, but I definitely think that you are overthinking it.
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I haven't applied to ULaw, but I definitely think that you are overthinking it.
Where have you applied?
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Where have you applied?
BPP Leeds and UWE Bristol.
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BPP Leeds and UWE Bristol.
I would've considered outside London but I work in the City, so can't afford to drop my job to go study elsewhere.
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I would've considered outside London but I work in the City, so can't afford to drop my job to go study elsewhere.
That's understandable. Good luck with your application.
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You don't have to worry about maxing the word count. I attended one of their bar events (I'm a ULaw rep at my University) and they made a point of doing that they weren't rigid about it. I would say that mentioning why you've applied for ULaw would be a positive addition, but probably not a requirement.

Can't help you with the others though I'm afraid.
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You don't have to worry about maxing the word count. I attended one of their bar events (I'm a ULaw rep at my University) and they made a point of doing that they weren't rigid about it. I would say that mentioning why you've applied for ULaw would be a positive addition, but probably not a requirement.

Can't help you with the others though I'm afraid.
Thanks, I've gone down the route of explaining what research I've done to ensure the course is right for me, and from my research they appear to be the best provider for face-to-face learning. As oppose to the others which I considered, they seem by far the best offering.

Planning on submitting my application this week. Any idea what supporting documents must be submitted. I have my degree transcript and certificate, just not sure about what else i.e. CV, references etc.
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Thanks, I've gone down the route of explaining what research I've done to ensure the course is right for me, and from my research they appear to be the best provider for face-to-face learning. As oppose to the others which I considered, they seem by far the best offering.

Planning on submitting my application this week. Any idea what supporting documents must be submitted. I have my degree transcript and certificate, just not sure about what else i.e. CV, references etc.
hello.. I hope you have had got into ULaw. I am going to apply for September 2021 and struggling with the question "why chosen this course, what research etc". am I suppose to talk about the Bar Course generally? or bar course+ Ulaw? and my word count might reach 1000 words tbh. can you suggest me anything useful? thanks

I have submitted my application at BPP as well.
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I submitted my application for Sep 21 ULaw BPC LLM today! Would love to chat to you if you want?
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I submitted my application for Sep 21 ULaw BPC LLM today! Would love to chat to you if you want?
Hi What type of questions were you asked in the ULaw BPC interview? And how was the plea in mitigation?
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I’m currently preparing my application for the BPC. I’m looking at tackling the application as if I were applying for pupillage, by keeping it my paragraphs/points concise and providing evidence based points as to why I wish to undertake the course.

It’s been a while since I’ve written any sort of application like this, and have previously gone through the selection processes for training contracts and didn’t enjoy them, I found the applications overly complicated with strange, and often contradictory questions (too much of an emphasis on maxing the word count as well), as well as assessment centres featuring pointless tasks like building an animal or doing a completely irrelevant puzzle.

Whilst I appreciate I may well have to take part in exercises that I might not enjoy in pursuit of a career at the Bar during my application journey, from my reading I get the impression sets of Chambers focus a lot on your practical skills (they want to see this evidence is clear cut advocacy and public speaking), questions tend to be straight to the point at interviews (whilst also expecting similar responses with candidates’ answers), and are genuinely interested in you and your personality should you make it far enough to get an interview.

What I would like to know, amongst many other things, from other forum users’ experience is:

- Should I be concerned about maxing the 4000 word count in my Ulaw app cover letter;

- Is it appropriate to explain why I am choosing Ulaw over other providers;

- Whilst I’ve be working in the legal profession for many years, will it be appropriate (within reason) to use my mini pupillages from about 6 years ago as evidence of why I want to pursue a career as an advocate;

- I’ve had some experience in sales (short career), what would you recommend extracting from this as evidence I have the right skill set for the self-employed bar (I like doing the whole BD thing sometimes...).

Amongst all of that if you have any other pointers please post them.
Hi AgentBlue 94

Current Bar Practice Course student here! Thought I would chip in and answer your questions (especially as a career changer myself)...


You asked "- Should I be concerned about maxing the 4000 word count in my Ulaw app cover letter" answer: in short, no, but a legal skill is the ability to be concise- so only say what is necessary.

You asked "- Is it appropriate to explain why I am choosing Ulaw over other providers" answer: absolutely, it demonstrates thought about the process- it may be cost, location, study mode, opinions from other students- all of these are valid points.

You asked "- Whilst I’ve be working in the legal profession for many years, will it be appropriate (within reason) to use my mini pupillages from about 6 years ago as evidence of why I want to pursue a career as an advocate" answer: ANY relevant experience is good experience but prioritise- not just on the fact that it is "legal experience" but because it demonstrates the skills/aptitude needed to succeed in the legal profession (problem solving, legal research, team work [yes even in the self-employed bar], self-motivation, working under stress, dealing with challenges, written communication, presenting, advocacy). Put your most relevant experiences- you don't need to put every experience is something already covers that point.

You asked "- I’ve had some experience in sales (short career), what would you recommend extracting from this as evidence I have the right skill set for the self-employed bar (I like doing the whole BD thing sometimes...)." answer: put it if you feel it will add something to your application (such as dealing with difficult customers/challenging situations).

You said "Amongst all of that if you have any other pointers please post them" answer: Demonstrate how you will deal with the challenges of the course- it is very demanding so how do you manage your time, how will you manage the stress (talk about support from others and the stress management activities you do i.e what you do for fun!), how will you connect with others within the leg profession?


Hope that helps!
Nic
Student Ambassador at The University of Law
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