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I've applied for medicine to st georges and the rest to russell group unis. One of the many factors for going to St georges is the fact its London based, however the campus and facilities are small and there are only medical related subjects being taught there. Whereas the russell group unis that I've applied to have students from all subjects with much larger campuses and are ranked higher on the league tables.

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I've applied for medicine in st georges and the rest for russell group unis. One of the many factors for going to st georges is the fact its London based, however the campus and facilities are small and there are only medical related subjects being taught there. Whereas the russell group unis that I've applied to have students from all subjects with much larger campuses and are ranked higher on the league tables.

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The advice is that it doesn't matter. The Russell Group doesn't have any significant in medicine. Go to whichever uni you like best.
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If you are lucky enough to get a choice. Go for the one you like best - nobody else can tell you what you are looking for in a uni
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I just feel that going to a Russell group uni will give me the opportunity of have a more diverse group of friends as well as being able to take part in more extra curriculars
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I just feel that going to a Russell group uni will give me the opportunity of have a more diverse group of friends as well as being able to take part in more extra curriculars
Then choose based on those reasons, not whether a uni is RG or not, as that means nothing in medicine
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I just feel that going to a Russell group uni will give me the opportunity of have a more diverse group of friends as well as being able to take part in more extra curriculars
That's not really applicable to medicine. Medical students tend to stick together and (unless it's a collegiate system like Oxbridge) many don't really socialise with non medics, especially because the course is longer.

Russell Group is an alliance of research universities, but most medical students do no research so it doesn't matter at all.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if you got your degree at Keele or Cambridge, Anglia Ruskim or Oxford because all are regulated by the GMC and you don't get an advantage when you apply for specialty training or when you become a consultant.
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You'll have access to all of the ULU societies as a SGUL student, so there will be opportunity to meet non-healthcare/bioscience students via that (although the ULU building is a way away in Bloomsbury)

I went to one of the Russel group London medical schools. All of my friends were and are medics. It's part tribalism and part artefact of being together for more contact hours per week than most other students and for 5/6 years instead of 3. Realistically whatever your intentions you are likely to end up socialising with more/mostly/only medics wherever you go - unless you are lucky to live with a good random bunch that you get on well with.
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I just feel that going to a Russell group uni will give me the opportunity of have a more diverse group of friends as well as being able to take part in more extra curriculars
That's not a Russell Group thing so much as a "not SGUL" thing

Chances are whichever university you go to you'll still end up hanging around with other medical students most of the time.
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I just feel that going to a Russell group uni will give me the opportunity of have a more diverse group of friends as well as being able to take part in more extra curriculars
If you've done your research and that's what you've found as upsides/downsides, seems like a legit reason to consider.

I agree that outside of Oxbridge medics tend to be very cliquey anyway. I was under the impression London was worse (even having medic-specific sports teams sometimes), but I have no experience to draw from.
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(even having medic-specific sports teams sometimes),
Goodness yes. The London med schools have their own medics bars/union buildings, sports teams (for the major stuff, rugby, football, rugby, rowing) and other societies (medics drama/music etc.) as well as course-specific socs. (anatomy/surgery/EM/IM etc.)
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Goodness yes. The London med schools have their own medics bars/union buildings, sports teams (for the major stuff, rugby, football, rugby, rowing) and other societies (medics drama/music etc.) as well as course-specific socs. (anatomy/surgery/EM/IM etc.)
Wow.

Anyone know if its like that at any non-London unis?

Otherwise I have to conclude OP's point is definitely legitimate!
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I went to George's (paramedic, rather than medicine). I liked it. Small is nice - you actually know people, and pretty much anyone in the uni you'll have at least one mutual friend with. I don't need to know 20,000 people. Yes, everyone's in healthcare, but at least at SGUL I can be friends with physios, paramedics, pharmacologists, biomeds, medics, healthcare scientists. I've asked the question at other uni's open days of 'how much do you socialise with other courses' - the answer is generally zero for medicine (outside of sports).

As for societies and sports - the EM society (which I was part of) did a big conference last year bringing in students from every medical school in London. For sports, you have competitions between all london medical schools occasionally, and much more regularly have competitions between all UL teams (and there's a lot of them, see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univer...r_institutions but scroll down a little, RVC and others aren't listed in the first list in that section) as well as plenty of socials with them where we'll all go out, eat somewhere, drink somewhere, go on a bar crawl, etc.

You've also got the whole of London - plenty of parties, clubs, things to do, people to meet - it doesn't all have to be people who happen to go to the same university as you.
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The advice is that it doesn't matter. The Russell Group doesn't have any significant in medicine. Go to whichever uni you like best.
Not exactly true, the RG was founded as a group of universities with medical schools lol. 😂 But what you meant to say is; standards are equivalent across medical schools, meaning there is no low quality medical school in the UK.
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Not exactly true, the RG was founded as a group of universities with medical schools lol. 😂 But what you meant to say is; standards are equivalent across medical schools, meaning there is no low quality medical school in the UK.
Going to a RG medical school still holds no significance in medicine and medical careers, which is what I said.
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Not exactly true, the RG was founded as a group of universities with medical schools lol. 😂 But what you meant to say is; standards are equivalent across medical schools, meaning there is no low quality medical school in the UK.
Don't think that's entirely accurate tbh. Warwick and LSE (founding members of the RG) both don't have a med school (Warwick eventually set one up, but not in 1994).

There were also med schools who predated the RG but is not part of it. Leicester Med School was established in 1975 but Leicester was never in the RG.

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Going to a RG medical school still holds no significance in medicine and medical careers, which is what I said.
Agreed.
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Not exactly true, the RG was founded as a group of universities with medical schools lol. 😂 But what you meant to say is; standards are equivalent across medical schools, meaning there is no low quality medical school in the UK.
Yeah, not true I'm afraid!

It was originally just an informal meeting in a Hotel (Hotel Russell) prior to the big government funding meeting so that they could get their story straight and act like a guild to protect each other's interests! I don't think its really known when it started... the formal group was 1994 but that's not when these dubious meetings began for sure!

The most prestigious unis tended to also have med schools. It is good for research. There is no other link.
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Yeah, not true I'm afraid!

It was originally just an informal meeting in a Hotel (Hotel Russell) prior to the big government funding meeting so that they could get their story straight and act like a guild to protect each other's interests! I don't think its really known when it started... the formal group was 1994 but that's not when these dubious meetings began for sure!

The most prestigious unis tended to also have med schools. It is good for research. There is no other link.
They were originally all uni's with medical schools. Warwick wasn't originally one...and we can't count LSE as it's a specialist uni. Idk read it on Wikipedia lmao.

I'm aware they met at the hotel right next to Russell square tube stop, i actually went to private foundation next to there at UCL lol. And ultimately progressed to the Russell group! Yeahh i went from Russell Square to a RG! Not many can say that!
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Your not my Papi! I don't have to listen to you! 😂
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