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    Hey,

    Quick question, Is Further Mathematics really hard at AS-Level to A2? I am thinking off taking it at 6th form college, I am predicted "A" in Edexcel GCSE Maths. I asked the 6th form college, How many lessons you have a week and they said 8 including normal AS-Level Maths & Further Maths compared to 4 if I took just normal AS-Level Maths!

    Do you think its capable off passing by just listening to the teachers when they teach you during lessons and then some revision before exams? Or do you need to do more than that to get either a "A" or "B"?

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    (Original post by Amit92)
    Hey,

    Quick question, Is Further Mathematics really hard at AS-Level to A2? I am thinking off taking it at 6th form college, I am predicted "A" in Edexcel GCSE Maths. I asked the 6th form college, How many lessons you have a week and they said 8 including normal AS-Level Maths & Further Maths compared to 4 if I took just normal AS-Level Maths!

    Do you think its capable off passing by just listening to the teachers when they teach you during lessons and then some revision before exams? Or do you need to do more than that to get either a "A" or "B"?

    Thanks

    Amit
    i think you really can't say, it's totaly dependent on the individual, I know people who have done well will little work and people that have not done so well with more work, so no one can say 4sure

    and it's completely normal to have double the amount of lessons if ur doing maths and further, they are both separate A levels after all ...
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    well, being predicted an a* is always a good start i guess.

    i got taught as maths and f maths in 10 lessons a week, so i dont know if you may be disadvantaged with 8 lessons

    if your teachers are competant enough to teach it well, and you find the exercises from the book alrite, then you should be fine

    it's a tough subject to be fair, but not impossible to do, and get an A in
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    Do you like doing maths for fun?
    Are you honestly good at maths?

    If the answer to these is yes then it's fine as long as you're prepared to put in the work.
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    no - for most people it is piss easy - i find maths a dodle - spend hardly any time on it still end up with 95%+ - this is very common with people - if you look at the stats from the bbc website you will see that the majority of people taking further maths will get an A (63% i think) - if you can do maths it is piss, if not - theres no point you doing it
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    i think you should think about this after you get your results.

    due to bad time management, i found further maths quite hard, despite getting an A* at GCSE.
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    (Original post by Sick Puppy)
    Do you like doing maths for fun?
    Are you honestly good at maths?

    If the answer to these is yes then it's fine as long as you're prepared to put in the work.
    You don't really have to enjoy maths to be good at it - I found it incredibly dull and yet am still predicted an A. It basically is a question of if you're really good at maths or if you're good at maths and prepared to work.

    If you are neither of those two, don't bother.
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    (Original post by eulerwaswrong)
    if you look at the stats from the bbc website you will see that the majority of people taking further maths will get an A (63% i think) -
    This does not imply that Further Maths is easy (if it did, it would imply that Further is easier than normal Maths!) - it implies that people who take Further Maths are more likely to be good enough at maths to succeed in it.

    OP, it depends on who you are. People like me and eulerwaswrong find it really easy, others may really struggle, it varies vastly. For this reason, we can't really tell you how you'll do. It's not that much harder than Maths - in fact, I reckon doing double Maths is easier than doing single Maths in half the time because of all the background knowledge you gain from your normal Maths A-level.
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    (Original post by smilepea)
    i think you really can't say, it's totaly dependent on the individual, I know people who have done well will little work and people that have not done so well with more work, so no one can say 4sure

    and it's completely normal to have double the amount of lessons if ur doing maths and further, they are both separate A levels after all ...
    Well don't most people do AS-Level Maths & AS-Level Further Maths? Because they both support each other in a way?
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    (Original post by eulerwaswrong)
    no - for most people it is piss easy - i find maths a dodle - spend hardly any time on it still end up with 95%+ - this is very common with people - if you look at the stats from the bbc website you will see that the majority of people taking further maths will get an A (63% i think) - if you can do maths it is piss, if not - theres no point you doing it
    That is because only the very best do it. Further maths is definately not easy for most people.
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    Thanks for the comments guys!
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    (Original post by Amit92)
    Well don't most people do AS-Level Maths & AS-Level Further Maths? Because they both support each other in a way?
    You need the knowledge from Maths to do Further Maths. Usually what people do (at schools/colleges that don't do each in each year) is take Maths and Further Maths AS in year 12, and then either just carry on Maths to A2, or (usually) carry on both. Getting an AS in each is, really, not a good idea.
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    I your good at maths then its well worth doing. For the Further maths A2 you dont even need to take 'further maths standard' modules. e.g you could take piss easy decision 1 towards your grade.

    And about the work, i didnt really listen all year and just taught myself a week before exam, dont do that though. lol! if you practice all of the past papers itz pretty easy to get an A, all the questions are virtually the same.
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    (Original post by tommm)
    You need the knowledge from Maths to do Further Maths. Usually what people do (at schools/colleges that don't do each in each year) is take Maths and Further Maths AS in year 12, and then either just carry on Maths to A2, or (usually) carry on both. Getting an AS in each is, really, not a good idea.
    Why isnt it? Having an AS-Level in Maths and an AS-Level in Further Maths?
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    (Original post by Amit92)
    Why isnt it? Having an AS-Level in Maths and an AS-Level in Further Maths?
    Having just an A-level in Maths would be much better than that. Further Maths is designed as an "add-on" to Maths; they're only ever taught concurrently when a school doesn't have the resources/time to teach them one after the other.
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    (Original post by Amit92)
    Why isnt it? Having an AS-Level in Maths and an AS-Level in Further Maths?
    well i only had an as level in Fmaths by the time i finished A level Maths
    for edexcel, you need Fp1 for an AS in F Maths, and to be able to understand FP1 you need C4 knowledge
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    (Original post by Amit92)
    Why isnt it? Having an AS-Level in Maths and an AS-Level in Further Maths?
    Well you don't have an A Level, so it's not really worth very much. (Note Further Maths AS is actually a little easier than Maths A2)

    Personally I think it's better to take the full Maths A Level in year 12, then all of FM in 13.

    Also bear in mind not all FM's are equal. In my board (OCR), you could do say C1-C4, FP1-FP2, M1-2, S1-2, D1-2 (easiest, imo), or C1-C4, FP1-FP3, M1-4, S1 (hardest). There's a big difference.
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    Its well hard innit
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    (Original post by tommm)
    You need the knowledge from Maths to do Further Maths. Usually what people do (at schools/colleges that don't do each in each year) is take Maths and Further Maths AS in year 12, and then either just carry on Maths to A2, or (usually) carry on both. Getting an AS in each is, really, not a good idea.
    Mine do, only the OCR MEI board allows this is what the maths teacher said the college, which is why they run OCR MEI
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    Mine do, only the OCR MEI board allows this is what the maths teacher said the college, which is why they run OCR MEI
    Well the course im thinking off doing at Uni is Economics or a Joint course which is Economics and Maths degree and they want just a normal A-level in Maths for a Single Economics degree or Maths A-level and Further Maths for the Joint one but some unis will just take Normal AS-level Maths for the Joint degree.

    Also after the 1st year of AS you get AS-Level Mathematics and AS-Level Further Maths which = 1A-Level in Maths?
 
 
 

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