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Email Dilemma :(

I've got a bit of a situation on my hands and I have no idea what to do :frown:

Without going into heaps and heaps of backstory, my boyfriend's mother is absolutely horrible. She is completely insane, very selfish and has been the cause of many problems over our three and a half year relationship. One thing is she has a complete obsession about forcing 'family time' - which most definitely does not include me. We've never had confrontations in the past, but both of us have made it clear that we hate each other and want nothing to do with the other. I'm absolutely happy to have nothing to do with her - I love my boyfriend and that's what matters to me - but my boyfriend really wants us to get along. I have to say that I usually have a really short fuse but I've tried to make such an effort with her and each time I do she throws it back in my face by throwing a childish tantrum - loudly so I can hear it, although not directly at *me* if you get me.

However, it's my boyfriend's 21st next week. Usually, we fight over her doing what SHE wants to do (such as visiting some stupid collection at an art gallery/going to a dinner at church to keep up appearances) or doing what I've planned for my boyfriend, based on things that he likes. But because it's an important birthday, she has deigned to invite me to fly up to Edinburgh on the day to stay in the hotel for a night after they have been on a 'family only' holiday for a couple of days beforehand. The plan after that was for them to go on to some Scottish isle and for my boyfriend and I to spend a night in a youth hostel before getting the train back to London so he can start an internship on Monday.

My boyfriend's been abroad in a rural part of Asia for the last couple of weeks and we've hardly spoken. I wanted to check what time his flight got into London tomorrow so I went to check his email for his e-ticket. We both know each others' passwords and have no problems with using each others' accounts when we need to, so I didn't feel bad about doing that. However, I didn't find the e-ticket as he must have used another account, so I saw an email from his mother and opened that, hoping he must have told her what was happening there. Unfortunately, it was a massive bitch all about me and how I clearly don't want to spend time with the family, that she expected he spend his birthday with them and I was lucky to be there, and that I was horrible, discourteous, rude, etc etc. Although I couldn't see his replies in the chain, it appears that she now wants my boyfriend to go with them to the rural isle and I will be tolerated there if I must spend time with him. From what I can gather, he has replied saying he has to start his internship on Monday and she has taken this to mean I don't want to go to the Isle (when I haven't even been asked) and that I'm making him spend the night in Edinburgh instead, rather than having to spend time with the family.

Phew. I'm sorry this is so ridculously long but I'm really upset and I've no idea what to do. I've no reason to be annoyed with my boyfriend, just really upset that she's clearly got it into her head that I'm the source of all these problems. The problem is I feel a bit bad for looking at an email from her when I should have been looking at an e-ticket but I thought that would be the quickest way of finding out when he was back. Now I've no idea how to act. Should I mention it to my boyfriend? How should I behave towards her? Should I go to this Scottish isle? Should we stay in Edinburgh? Help!
Reply 1
Problems b/w parents and their childrens partners are common "though not to that extent" is there any root to this problem that you are aware of?
Reply 2
I'd mention exaclt what you said about checking his e-ticket - if he doesn't mind you going on his email it shouldn't be a problem. Maybe you could rin his mother and ask her some questions about what is exactly going on? Obviously in a courteous way. Mayeb you could say on the phone 'are you sure that you're ok with us staying in edinburgh or did you want us to go to the Isle with you?' that way you have asked her what she wants and she can't say your going against her wishes.
Reply 3
ally.pants
I'd mention exaclt what you said about checking his e-ticket - if he doesn't mind you going on his email it shouldn't be a problem. Maybe you could rin his mother and ask her some questions about what is exactly going on? Obviously in a courteous way. Mayeb you could say on the phone 'are you sure that you're ok with us staying in edinburgh or did you want us to go to the Isle with you?' that way you have asked her what she wants and she can't say your going against her wishes.


Being a girl (you), i'd defe. give you the upper hand in this issue, but i'd wanna keep things smooth. as a guy i can tell you, there aint many things we hate more than getting caught up b/w our GFs and our moms or other family members, but taking things in to her own hands can make things messy...esp while she's this worked up about it....

dont you agree O_O
Reply 4
Lithium
Problems b/w parents and their childrens partners are common "though not to that extent" is there any root to this problem that you are aware of?


Hmm...it's really complex and hard to describe. She's a really, really eccentric person who clearly has a lot of problems - his parents are technically still married and go on holiday and see each other on Saturdays and things but they actually don't live in the same house. She doesn't have a job and just completely sponges off my boyfriend's dad, who is lovely. Two horses and she can't even canter! She just spends all his cash on a house that is actually falling to pieces (and which the surveyor strongly advised them not to buy), art lesson or whatever selfish whim she's currently feeling. My boyfriend feels really sorry for her and tries very hard to avoid any of her tantrums so he usually gives into what she wants for a quiet life. I think she might resent the hold she thinks I have over him, when to be honest I usually only put my foot down when her actions are actively hurting him or us.

Grr...she makes me so angry! She spends money on herself like water, but my boyfriend currently is thousands of pounds in debt because she won't help him with his uni fees and he can't qualify for assistance because he lives at her house during term time. And she takes their dog everywhere when she drives and leaves him roasting in a boiling hot car in a car park, which is complete animal cruelty. :mad: I know it might seem like I have a massive thing against her, but I'm so so sick of trying to overlook her horrible selfish behaviour that it just comes out in a big rant!
Reply 5
Lithium
Being a girl (you), i'd defe. give you the upper hand in this issue, but i'd wanna keep things smooth. as a guy i can tell you, there aint many things we hate more than getting caught up b/w our GFs and our moms or other family members, but taking things in to her own hands can make things messy...esp while she's this worked up about it....

dont you agree O_O



Yes I guess so. I find it very hard to keep my mouth shut to my boyfriend about his mum sometimes. She's a nice woman and is nice to me, I just really don't get some of the things she says etc and i guess we have very different backgrounds and she is about the most opposite of my mum as you could possibly get.

But I'm always polite to her. And I didn't mean to ring and get annoyed. Just put on a calm voice and politely ask what she wanted to do about Scotland. Whether she thought it was a better idea for them to go to the Isle or to stay in Edinburgh? I don't see how that could hurt unless you got rude...
Reply 6
Anonymous
Hmm...it's really complex and hard to describe. She's a really, really eccentric person who clearly has a lot of problems - his parents are technically still married and go on holiday and see each other on Saturdays and things but they actually don't live in the same house. She doesn't have a job and just completely sponges off my boyfriend's dad, who is lovely. Two horses and she can't even canter! She just spends all his cash on a house that is actually falling to pieces (and which the surveyor strongly advised them not to buy), art lesson or whatever selfish whim she's currently feeling. My boyfriend feels really sorry for her and tries very hard to avoid any of her tantrums so he usually gives into what she wants for a quiet life. I think she might resent the hold she thinks I have over him, when to be honest I usually only put my foot down when her actions are actively hurting him or us.

Grr...she makes me so angry! She spends money on herself like water, but my boyfriend currently is thousands of pounds in debt because she won't help him with his uni fees and he can't qualify for assistance because he lives at her house during term time. And she takes their dog everywhere when she drives and leaves him roasting in a boiling hot car in a car park, which is complete animal cruelty. :mad: I know it might seem like I have a massive thing against her, but I'm so so sick of trying to overlook her horrible selfish behaviour that it just comes out in a big rant!

Well, no offense, but from what your saying, we're dealing with a sick woman, or a pure bitch....

but one thing that caught my attn. was that you said your bf is in debt. his father will give his gf's mother money to spend on herself, but wont help his own son pay for uni?

how does that figure, esp that he is a lovely man...sorry if im sounding harsh, it just doesn't "fit" if you wil....
Reply 7
ally.pants
Yes I guess so. I find it very hard to keep my mouth shut to my boyfriend about his mum sometimes. She's a nice woman and is nice to me, I just really don't get some of the things she says etc and i guess we have very different backgrounds and she is about the most opposite of my mum as you could possibly get.

But I'm always polite to her. And I didn't mean to ring and get annoyed. Just put on a calm voice and politely ask what she wanted to do about Scotland. Whether she thought it was a better idea for them to go to the Isle or to stay in Edinburgh? I don't see how that could hurt unless you got rude...

Hmm, that's a good idea but unfortunately I think we're far far past that point of niceity. I would never call her unless there was some sort of emergency and I think she would guess that something is amiss.

Anyway, I don't think I want to have to partake in the 'family time' (which is basically her holding court and indulging in various monologues about how people are mean to her or what she is buying next/forcing the family to do because she wants to do it) if I'm not wanted. I'd rather spend a day alone with my boyfriend in Edinburgh if that's the case, even if I am totally skint and can't really afford it.
Reply 8
Lithium
Well, no offense, but from what your saying, we're dealing with a sick woman, or a pure bitch....

but one thing that caught my attn. was that you said your bf is in debt. his father will give his gf's mother money to spend on herself, but wont help his own son pay for uni?

how does that figure, esp that he is a lovely man...sorry if im sounding harsh, it just doesn't "fit" if you wil....


Yeah, he is lovely, but incredibly weak. She holds the purse strings, even if she doesn't put anything in the purse! Which is the main problem. My dad, who is fiery, northern and does not mince his words, keeps asking why he doesn't just get rid but tbh I don't think he has any sort of confidence to be able to do that.
Reply 9
Hmmm... It really is quite a hard one then. Why not email your boyfriend explain the situation and ask what he wants to do? Tbh he probably realises how bad she is, but after all he is her son. I always think seperated women and mothers who dote on their sons can be more difficult. There's always less problems with men and mothers-in-law/gf's mother.

Has your boyfriend ever said much about how you and his mother behave towards eachother?
Reply 10
Anonymous
Yeah, he is lovely, but incredibly weak. She holds the purse strings, even if she doesn't put anything in the purse! Which is the main problem. My dad, who is fiery, northern and does not mince his words, keeps asking why he doesn't just get rid but tbh I don't think he has any sort of confidence to be able to do that.

the woman controls your bfs dads money?!? :eek:
Reply 11
ally.pants
Hmmm... It really is quite a hard one then. Why not email your boyfriend explain the situation and ask what he wants to do? Tbh he probably realises how bad she is, but after all he is her son. I always think seperated women and mothers who dote on their sons can be more difficult. There's always less problems with men and mothers-in-law/gf's mother.

Has your boyfriend ever said much about how you and his mother behave towards eachother?

Hmm a bit. He tries to avoid it as much as possible, but when she causes some sort of conflict and I get upset he always asks me to be mature and let her get her own way because whilst it doesn't really matter to us it does to her. But it does matter to me! I'm not a pushover and I don't want to be treated like one anymore by this horrible woman.

He's back tomorrow so I guess we'll talk on the phone then. I don't know how I should really bring it up though... :s
God she sounds horrid.
Reply 13
Surely you could just ask him what you could do to make things more bearable over his birthday celebrations for him, as obviously he won't want things ruined by conflict between you and his mother?
Reply 14
why is she being so rude? i think you need to talk to him about it, or even better, just talk to her about it..clear things up
I really think you should try to make amends so you're on a courteous level. It's obvious you're never going to like each other, but it's never nice knowing that you're unwanted around your partner's family. You've said you never ring her except in an emergency, but I'd suggest maybe you could ring her this time and say something friendly about it being the most efficient way to sort things, and make sure your boyfriend has a great birthday? What does your boyfriend want to do? If not, maybe you could email her - say you just wanted to clear up what's happening. Be polite but not sugary-sweet.

This is just my advice - of course everyone's different, and I've never really had the misfortune to meet someone who is obviously such an unattractive personality. My boyfriend's parents are very different to mine, and I sometimes find it difficult in their company, but it's never their fault, just me trying to adjust to them. This is why I'd say that feeling awkward around your partner's family is one of the worst things ever! If it was anyone but your boyfriend's mother, I'd say stop bothering... ha!