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    (Original post by MarvinBVB)
    Hi,

    I’m studying Business Analysis & Consulting (i.e. Management Science) at Strathclyde Business School. I’m from Germany, but I want to stay in the UK (preferably London) after having completed my degree in Glasgow. Given my field of study, I’d like to get a job in management consulting.

    Here are the most important facts concerning my education etc.:

    Education:
    • German Abitur (A-levels): 1.5 [scale from 1 (best) to 5(worst)] --> top 5%
    • BSc in Business Administration: 2.1 (same scale) --> roughly equals an Upper Second in the UK; target university of all big consulting firms (including MBB) in Germany; top 30% (not good, just mentioning it for the sake of consistency^^)
    • MSc in Business Analysis & Consulting at Strathclyde Business School: overall mark prior to Master thesis: 75% (lowest individual mark: 70%) --> expected distinction and at least top 5%

    Project/work experience:
    • Internship 1: management consulting at a small local consulting firm in Germany (2 months)
    • Internship 2: key account management at Lindt & Sprungli Germany (4 months)
    • Internship 3: data analysis at a local start-up (part of my MSc; 3 weeks)
    • Social project (conducting language classes and cultural workshops) in Malaysia (1.5 months)
    • MSc project (in cooperation with a real client, resembling a consulting project): Investigation of the erosion of profit margins at a local producer of seafood (3 months)

    Extracurricular activities:
    • Founded a youth parliament in my hometown
    • Was a personal tutor at my old university in Germany
    • Am a volunteer and treasurer at Oxfam
    • Am founding a student-led consulting firm together with three fellow students

    Other achievements:
    • 2 scholarships: one from a German institution providing scholarships for outstanding pupils or students (I know this sounds self-regarding, but I can’t find a better translation.) and one from an online career platform in Germany

    I understand that my CV is by no means competitive enough to land a job with McKinsey, Bain, BCG, or Oliver Wyman, but what about firms like OC&C, A.T. Kearney, Simon Kucher & Partner, Arthur D. Little, or Eden McCallum (‘2nd tier” and “hidden champions”)? Do you think I might have a shot at these firms? I’ve checked a few LinkedIn profiles of people working for these companies, and the majority seems to come from either Oxbridge or one of the universities in London, which makes me a bit sceptical.

    I hope some of you can give me a hint =).

    Thanks!

    PS: Sorry, this became longer than intended^^.
    You'll be fine mate.
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    (Original post by MarvinBVB)
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    u have nothing to lose sending in apps. u seem component with good exp. considered big 4 consulting?
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    (Original post by MarvinBVB)
    Hi,

    I’m studying Business Analysis & Consulting (i.e. Management Science) at Strathclyde Business School. I’m from Germany, but I want to stay in the UK (preferably London) after having completed my degree in Glasgow. Given my field of study, I’d like to get a job in management consulting.

    Here are the most important facts concerning my education etc.:

    Education:
    • German Abitur (A-levels): 1.5 [scale from 1 (best) to 5(worst)] --> top 5%
    • BSc in Business Administration: 2.1 (same scale) --> roughly equals an Upper Second in the UK; target university of all big consulting firms (including MBB) in Germany; top 30% (not good, just mentioning it for the sake of consistency^^)
    • MSc in Business Analysis & Consulting at Strathclyde Business School: overall mark prior to Master thesis: 75% (lowest individual mark: 70%) --> expected distinction and at least top 5%

    Project/work experience:
    • Internship 1: management consulting at a small local consulting firm in Germany (2 months)
    • Internship 2: key account management at Lindt & Sprungli Germany (4 months)
    • Internship 3: data analysis at a local start-up (part of my MSc; 3 weeks)
    • Social project (conducting language classes and cultural workshops) in Malaysia (1.5 months)
    • MSc project (in cooperation with a real client, resembling a consulting project): Investigation of the erosion of profit margins at a local producer of seafood (3 months)

    Extracurricular activities:
    • Founded a youth parliament in my hometown
    • Was a personal tutor at my old university in Germany
    • Am a volunteer and treasurer at Oxfam
    • Am founding a student-led consulting firm together with three fellow students

    Other achievements:
    • 2 scholarships: one from a German institution providing scholarships for outstanding pupils or students (I know this sounds self-regarding, but I can’t find a better translation.) and one from an online career platform in Germany

    I understand that my CV is by no means competitive enough to land a job with McKinsey, Bain, BCG, or Oliver Wyman, but what about firms like OC&C, A.T. Kearney, Simon Kucher & Partner, Arthur D. Little, or Eden McCallum (‘2nd tier” and “hidden champions”)? Do you think I might have a shot at these firms? I’ve checked a few LinkedIn profiles of people working for these companies, and the majority seems to come from either Oxbridge or one of the universities in London, which makes me a bit sceptical.

    I hope some of you can give me a hint =).

    Thanks!

    PS: Sorry, this became longer than intended^^.
    the intake of the tier 2 firms is actually smaller than mbb oc and c and ow, rb so it wouldnt be easier for you per say there than the tier 1s. your cv is full of strong extra currics which apart from uni name is the strongest holding by far to have when applying to strat firms. problem is that there are maybe 15 consulting firms at most. pm if want to talk further, will be applying for consulting summers from september.
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    (Original post by gr8wizard10)
    u have nothing to lose sending in apps. u seem component with good exp. considered big 4 consulting?
    what you wrote doesnt make sense. also if you have an offer with a firm what do you do to speed up the response with another, i.e literally just at app stage with the second firm? esp if they are big rivals? you dont want to seem rude and name drop to the rival firm and make it blatant lol.
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    (Original post by welcometoib)
    what you wrote doesnt make sense. also if you have an offer with a firm what do you do to speed up the response with another, i.e literally just at app stage with the second firm? esp if they are big rivals? you dont want to seem rude and name drop to the rival firm and make it blatant lol.
    he ask "do i have chance with these firms", i responded he has nothing to loose and he seems compotent.
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    (Original post by gr8wizard10)
    he ask "do i have chance with these firms", i responded he has nothing to loose and he seems compotent.
    ohhh, sorry bro, you wrote component, i got confused, competent, and also answer for the q pls!
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    (Original post by welcometoib)
    ohhh, sorry bro, you wrote component, i got confused, competent, and also answer for the q pls!
    my spelling is not on fleek today

    need to speak to u lol weirdest **** happened yday..

    yeah speed up app, email other firm if you have a exploding offer, if they can, theys hould be able to prioritise your app
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    (Original post by gr8wizard10)
    my spelling is not on fleek today

    need to speak to u lol weirdest **** happened yday..

    yeah speed up app, email other firm if you have a exploding offer, if they can, theys hould be able to prioritise your app
    eye tink we shud steek 2 our roots hombre

    lol phone dead give me an hour or so, life of the bae is always full of new shiz

    alrightey, just thinking about future and salary considerations,assuming everything else is ceterus (sp) paribus between the two.
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    (Original post by Noble.)
    Nah most people finish around now, mathmos always have exams a bit later (in the first two years we still have lectures for half the third term) but I have one of the last exams. Bit annoying as it seems most internships aren't starting until the week after and the week off would've been useful.

    I think that's true of Markets/Securities in general versus IBD but I don't think Research is as bad for it as the other market roles (trading definitely).
    well i guess its dependent on your appreciation for risk appetite in the first place, so i know you were applying for trading initially anyway so you probably would find research mild haha, compared to peeps applying to non trading roles
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    (Original post by welcometoib)
    well i guess its dependent on your appreciation for risk appetite in the first place, so i know you were applying for trading initially anyway so you probably would find research mild haha, compared to peeps applying to non trading roles
    Possibly, yeah. I'll hopefully be getting some time on a trading desk during the internship so I can make a bit of a judgement.
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    (Original post by Noble.)
    Possibly, yeah. I'll hopefully be getting some time on a trading desk during the internship so I can make a bit of a judgement.
    how big/small is the team? i dont know what its like at the bbs apart from for one, assume size varies a lot at different firms.
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    (Original post by welcometoib)
    how big/small is the team? i dont know what its like at the bbs apart from for one, assume size varies a lot at different firms.
    Size of which team, ER, the desk/sector I'm on or trading at CS? Not sure about the latter. I don't think trading is particularly large at CS, compared to other IBs.
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    (Original post by Noble.)
    Size of which team, ER, the desk/sector I'm on or trading at CS? Not sure about the latter. I don't think trading is particularly large at CS, compared to other IBs.
    er at cs generally if you know that, and the desk youre on
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    (Original post by welcometoib)
    er at cs generally if you know that, and the desk youre on
    Yeah there are 80 in ER in total. Not sure about the total size of my desk but I think it's quite a big desk as it has two MDs (presumably because the desk I'm on actually covers 2-3 equity sectors).
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    (Original post by Noble.)
    Yeah there are 80 in ER in total. Not sure about the total size of my desk but I think it's quite a big desk as it has two MDs (presumably because the desk I'm on actually covers 2-3 equity sectors).
    oh wow i think thats a lot! hmm let us know how its going on during the internship
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    Would anyone recommend any books to read regarding IB?
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    Guys is 5 A*, 4 A's, a B and a C good enough for IB?


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    Guys is 5 A*, 4 A's, a B and a C good enough for IB?


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    No-one cares about GCSEs, as long as you get AAB (although probably AAA by the time you come to apply) you'll be fine.
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    (Original post by MrBowcat)
    You'll be fine mate.
    Thanks, man!


    (Original post by gr8wizard10)
    he ask "do i have chance with these firms", i responded he has nothing to loose and he seems compotent.
    It took me a few moments to figure that out, but thank you =).
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    (Original post by Noble.)
    No-one cares about GCSEs, as long as you get AAB (although probably AAA by the time you come to apply) you'll be fine.
    Hi i just did AS levels. Do you know which unis are targeted highly by investment banks? I think I can make a fair guess (Oxbridge and Imperial right?) are there other unis?

    What are you currently doing if you dont mind me asking? Are you currently in investment banking? Or if not are you at uni? If so do you mind me asking which uni and which course please?
 
 
 
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