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Galway Uni, Ireland.

Hello everyone!
Only really just started considering moving overseas for uni. Ive looked at the Bachelor of Commerce course and it looks like something i'd want to do but i really don't understand the entry requirements as it only says this;
''Entry Requirements:
Applicants must have:

* Matriculation requirements of the National University of Ireland in the following subjects: Irish, English, one other language, Mathematics and any two other subjects acceptable for Matriculation.

For the purpose of allocation of places, eligible applicants are ranked in order of merit of performance at school leaving examinations. No previous knowledge of Accountancy, Business Organisation or Economics is required. ''

If i was studying in Ireland could i still get the same loans that my friends would be getting who are staying in England to study?

Does anybody know how the Irish system works and if an English student would qualify for loans and grants there?

Sorry to ask so many questions but im having a hard time working it all out. Thanks!!

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Reply 1
I'm not too sure. I'm studying at Trinity and rang up Surrey County Council to arrange a loan as I could do with the money going into 3rd year. I was however refused on the basis that my university is in Ireland. However, I have a huge number of Ulster students in my class, most of whom receive a loan from the UK government. (Needless to say I was quite fooked off that one British citizen is treated differently from another). I'd avise ringing your local council and seeing their policy on loans in ireland. The one benefit you would get is that EU citizens do not pay tuition fees in Ireland, so you would simply have to fund your living costs. Galway is also cheaper than Dublin, and Galway is a great city for general craic.
Reply 2
Wahooo! Thanks for that MrRobert87! I was thinking from what i'd read that i wouldn't have to pay tuition fee's but i didn't want to get my hopes up!
I would absolutely love to go to Galway but i've read that Irish Uni's are very hard to get into and i don't think i'll get the grades, i think i might come out with ABC.
NUI Galway has a fantastic reputation, it is behind Trinity and UCC, it ranks pretty much equally with UCD. It's pretty central, and Galway is a really lively student-friendly city, and cheaper than Dublin.

Those matric. requirements are for Irish applicants doing the Leaving Cert. We do 7 subjects, six are counted..everybody has to do Irish, English, Maths (some exceptions for Irish) and a 3rd language (it IS possible to not do one, but in most schools you have to, and there's no point in not taking it since most unis require it!) and 2 other subjects, looks like you don't have any subject requirements though. NUIG is part of the NUI and that's why all of those subjects are needed, Trinity and DCU are slightly more lenient.

Trinity is the only uni that has a proper A-level/leaving cert conversion system. But the points are 390, which is pretty low. You need to contact the Admissions Office.
Reply 4
StarsAreFixed
NUI Galway has a fantastic reputation, it is behind Trinity and UCC, it ranks pretty much equally with UCD. It's pretty central, and Galway is a really lively student-friendly city, and cheaper than Dublin.

Those matric. requirements are for Irish applicants doing the Leaving Cert. We do 7 subjects, six are counted..everybody has to do Irish, English, Maths (some exceptions for Irish) and a 3rd language (it IS possible to not do one, but in most schools you have to, and there's no point in not taking it since most unis require it!) and 2 other subjects, looks like you don't have any subject requirements though. NUIG is part of the NUI and that's why all of those subjects are needed, Trinity and DCU are slightly more lenient.

Trinity is the only uni that has a proper A-level/leaving cert conversion system. But the points are 390, which is pretty low. You need to contact the Admissions Office.



Thanks for the info!!!
This isn't looking good. I can't even speak two languages never mind 3! I dropped my language as soon as i hit the GCSE's because my school never had a proper language teachers and all we ever did in our lessons was the subject of the supply teacher.
No, those subjects don't apply to you. You might need English and Maths though. With ABC you're just about on the points, 390, but of course, they might go up or down. Anyway, the website looks like they have very little international student information, other than..contact the admissions office.

Because of free fees, student loans are pretty much non-existent. There are grants, but your parent/s needs to be earning less than €40k to get it, so most people don't qualify. I don't know if there are international grants available..admissions office/international office might know. There are student credit cards though, very low credit though, usually €600.
Reply 6
I'm so glad i posted here now!
I have emailed somebody at the uni to try to clarify what the entry requirements would be with a-levels but she's emailed me back to say i've sent it to the wrong person. She's forwarded it on to somebody who can help me but they haven't got back to me yet. They're probably busy this time of year with all of the new students.
So if i'm English but studying in Ireland, i can't apply for the students loans that all the other English kids get when they stay at home? I suppose that makes sense.
StarsAreFixed- do students in Ireland go to Uni when they are 17? How competitive are the uni places? I read somewhere that here's only 9 uni's in the whole of Ireland- that doesn't seem like a lot!!!
Nah actually, the unis won't have to deal with new students until the results come out, which is August 13th I think, always the Wednesday anyway. Currently, the unis haven't a clue about student numbers, the CAO has all the info..

No, because student loans don't exist here. Yes, a lot do. We have 5 years of secondary school, people are 12 turning 13 when they enter, and 17 when they leave. However, there is an optional year, 4th year or Transition Year, compulsory in some schools..and this means that more students nowadays are 18. I know a few people who have just finished 1st year at uni and have just turned 18. I howver, was 19 when I started uni because I was among the oldest of the year before I did TY.. Wondering is this will affect your social life? In Galway, not a whole lot. Easy enough to get fake ID and Rag Week/Freshers Week should be fairly lenient. Failing that, you'd be in student accom. anyway..

There are 7 unis in the Republic..Trinity, University College Cork, NUI Galway, University College Dublin, Dublin City University (not in the city), University of Limerick and NUI Maynooth. The North has Queens, University of Ulster and University of Coleraine..I think that's it? Not certain. Yep, pretty low. Trinity has 15,000 students, UCD has 20,000 and the rest are somewhere in betwen..NUI Maynooth has 7000 I think. Uni places are very competitive, particularly Trinity because it has the highest points.

This might make things clearer- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaving_Cert and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Applications_Office
Reply 8
Sorry for bombarding you with all these questions but the people i've emailed just aren't getting back to me!
The reason i ask about how old Irish students are when they start uni is because i'll be 19 by the time i get there!!
Trinity seems to be really competitive and i doubt i'll get the grades for it. Cork doesn't do the courses i want to do. UCD does a Commerce course but i don't know if i really want to be in Dublin, i've heard it's expensive and i'm already destined to be a poor student lol. I don't think Maynooth did any courses i was interested in. Limerick does a Business course but i don't really know much about it.
I've been nebbing around your profile and noticed you're at Trinity, how do you like it?
Nah quite a few are 19, as I said, about half of incoming students have done TY so will be either 18 or going on 19. Students being 16 is a thing of the past, there are still a good few who have just turned 17 though. Yeah Trinity doesn't really do a commerce course..the main business course is BESS, 460, which is populated by orange, abercrombie d4 heads, the eh sloane equivalent here. UCD has a really well established course, but yeah, Dublin is expensive. Although, minimum wage is really high, so you wouldn't have much of a struggle if you got a job. UCD is a bit out of Dublin though, but located smack bang in the most expensive part of it. Yeah Maynooth is very near me, lovely cosy campus but not a whole lot of business/commerce courses.

I love it! I commute from home, takes about 35 minutes, so yeah, accom. isn't a problem. It costs €6k a year to live in Trinity Halls though, rip-off, much. I spend all my time in the beautiful front end of campus, the back end is the science/medicine end. The SU is very very active and it gives a great atmosphere to college, brilliant student newspapers and societies too...there's 2 debating societies that bring in big names and great debates. No SU bar, but the city centre location makes up for that.

You might be better off ringing them, the main line has to answer..
Regarding the English, maths and language requirement, UK citizens simply need a C in English, Maths and a foreign language or Latin. That what I needed for Trinity and I would hazard a guess it is pretty much the same for NUI.

Trinity is a great uni, but tough to get into, especially if you're applying for the more competitive courses. You'd have a blast in Dublin. Saying that, Galway is a fab city the uni is very respected and I always have mad craic when I go for a weekend piss up. You would have a great time at either. Bear in mind Trinity is a 4 year course though, which can eat into funds.
Reply 11
MrRobert87
Regarding the English, maths and language requirement, UK citizens simply need a C in English, Maths and a foreign language or Latin. That what I needed for Trinity and I would hazard a guess it is pretty much the same for NUI.

Trinity is a great uni, but tough to get into, especially if you're applying for the more competitive courses. You'd have a blast in Dublin. Saying that, Galway is a fab city the uni is very respected and I always have mad craic when I go for a weekend piss up. You would have a great time at either. Bear in mind Trinity is a 4 year course though, which can eat into funds.


I'd rather go to Galway, i think after reading up on it.
But i think this is an idea i'll soon be forgetting as i didn't study a language even at GCSE. Our school didn't have a language teacher for us in years 7-9 so as soon as i entered year 10 i dropped it because there was no way i'd pass, we didn't even know the basics. I'm going to email them one more time and ask and if i still don't get a reply i'll try calling them.

Edit- I tried emailing again and got an automated response saying 'out of office untill july 28th'.
It seems like all Irish uni's will ask for a second language, because i don't think they'd ask Irish students for English, Irish and another language and just ask me for one. The most annoying thing is that while i've been at college i've studied and got AS levels in Psychology, English Lang, English Lit, Biology, Business and Citizenship and one of the few subjects i haven't studied is the one they want! Sods law always gets me lol. I'll keep trying.
Oooops, I missed out that the C in English, Maths and language was for GCSE, rather than A level.

Give them a buzz. the foreign language might have just been for Trinity, and they might make exceptions.
Reply 13
Yes i think i'm going to ring in the morning.
This might sound really stupid but i'm kinda scared. We met some irish boys on holiday and they couldn't really understand me but because i'm from sunderland they just kept shouting KEANO! KEANO! doubt the uni will do that though ha.
Trinity require either a foreign language OR Irish, but NUIG requires both. Obviously Irish can be discarded there for you, I'm not sure if you would need a foreign language to get in, maybe, contact them on the 28th about that. It seems that you don't have specific course requirements though, which is good, and you have English. What about Maths?
Reply 15
I stopped doing maths after GCSE i got a B.
Because i did my first year again with different subjects, i'm going to end up with about 500 UCAS points and i don't know if i'm supposed to count the ones from my first year or not.
I could kick myself now, i really wish i'd picked a foreign language. I was the first year after the law changed in England where it wasn't compulsory to take a language at GCSE so straight away i dropped it thinking it would never be important anyway. How wrong i was!
All is not lost, wait at least until you get confirmation about subjects they want for matriculation before you give it up.
Reply 17
I wonder if they'll do a trade, 1 language GSCE for 6 random AS levels lol.
I've also emailed the lady from Limerick about what the entry requirements would be for there and she's out of the office for the next few days too.

I found a link for entry requirements for international students, all it says is this ;

''The requirements for applying to NUI Galway are that you have completed the equivalent of the Irish Leaving certificate or GCE A levels.This is the school leaving examination taken by students completing their second level education.

Each application will be assessed on its own merit. For further information on how to make an application to the university, and minimum entry requirements for your country, check our how to apply section.''

When i clicked to look at the minimum entry requirements for each country, it only gives you the options of Mexico, USA, India, China, Pakistan and Nigeria. I had a look and none of them have been asked for a second or third language.
Well that's a bit reassuring then, that they haven't been asked for another language.
Reply 19
hi sorry im not here to help but i am in a similar situ to the person who made this post, firstly can u apply to trinity throught ucas ? and whats the difference between the campus accommodation and the trinity halls ? is there a drama society ? and whats this about you not having to pay fee for uni in Ireland.

sorry to be a pain but no one else seems to be able to answer my questions, thank you

Em xxx
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