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I mean I know that their acceptance rates are low but this is on another level let me give you some context (I'm using a throw away account because I don't to reveal my true identity)

I achieved 6A*s and 1A in my GCSEs (math bio chem physics enlgish humanbio arabic) these where the subjects

I scored 3 a in my (AS level )
and was expected 3A* in my (A2 level) for those unfamiliar with the international A-level system it's basically split into 2 parts AS and A2 and both are combined to give you your Complete A level score

So despite these grades that I view as great and despite having a strong application i was rejected from Cambridge (Sydney Sussex university) campus code 3

I applied for mechanical engineering and my 3 A-level subjects where Mathematics Physics and Biology

As for the reasons I think I was rejected for there are a couple
Mainly that I didn't take advanced mathematics as I have clearly mentioned in my application and thats because it's not provided at my school neither at any close examination center

Secondly because : (I'm an international student applying privately not through a school encase I Forgot to mention that) My referee was my English teacher as he was my class teacher and for some reason (probably because he has not got many requests to fill recommendation forms for UK unis through the UCAS (My school is situated in Saudi in case i failed to mention that) so he filled my reference form using his personal email (@gmail) not his work email so maybe my reference didn't look legit

But that all I can think of and no matter how I think of it I still cant find a satisfying reason to why I was rejected .
~~~Maybe I'm just being SALTY but enlighten me if you've got a reason I didn't think of .

Thanks in advance
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Everybody who applies to oxbridge has grades likes yours. Whilst they’re amazing grades, it’s expected from an oxbridge candidate, you’re completely on the same level as everybody else. They can’t let in everyone with those grades, perhaps your interview didn’t go as well as you thought, other people had more experience, better statements etc. Cambridge is very competitive and top grades alone don’t get you in.
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Everybody who applies to oxbridge has grades likes yours. Whilst they’re amazing grades, it’s expected from an oxbridge candidate, you’re completely on the same level as everybody else. They can’t let in everyone with those grades, perhaps your interview didn’t go as well as you thought, other people had more experience, better statements etc. Cambridge is very competitive and top grades alone don’t get you in.
Yea makes sense but it just burns right in the chest I worked hard for it but Oh well what can I do more than this thanks for the help
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Just ask them for feedback.

As above, every applicant to Oxbridge will be at least predicted to meet or exceed their typical offers, so in that sense your grades are not exceptional.

I suspect that either your personal statement or overall profile just wasn't strong enough.
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Just ask them for feedback.

As above, every applicant to Oxbridge will be at least predicted to meet or exceed their typical offers, so in that sense your grades are not exceptional.

I suspect that either your personal statement or overall profile just wasn't strong enough.
I mean Your probably right I didn't have that much time to prepare my personal statement but I'll share it here if your interested to see it
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As someone else has said, everyone applying has those grades but they physically don't have the places to give everyone an offer. It therefore usually boils down to any admissions tests you might have to do as well as the interviews, and not performing well in either is likely why you were rejected.
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I mean Your probably right I didn't have that much time to prepare my personal statement but I'll share it here if your interested to see it
I did ask for feedback and they said they will send it around February
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Right off the bat in the first paragraph I’ve noticed a mistake “I've begun to notice that I have a natural talent in Physics in my early year 11”
As it’s past tense it would have to be “I began”
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Did you sit the ENGAA?
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I do really think the lack of Further Maths would have been the main issue. A lot of people who don't have the opportunity to study it because their school doesn't offer it try to teach themselves it. To be honest you'd probably struggle on the degree without it.

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Right off the bat in the first paragraph I’ve noticed a mistake “I've begun to notice that I have a natural talent in Physics in my early year 11”
As it’s past tense it would have to be “I began”
I don't think they would hold grammatical mistakes against someone who's first language isn't English.
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Cambridge decisions come out on Wednesday tho ,, when did you receive the rejection?
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I mean I know that their acceptance rates are low but this is on another level let me give you some context (I'm using a throw away account because I don't to reveal my true identity)

I achieved 6A*s and 1A in my GCSEs (math bio chem physics enlgish humanbio arabic) these where the subjects

I scored 3 a in my (AS level )
and was expected 3A* in my (A2 level) for those unfamiliar with the international A-level system it's basically split into 2 parts AS and A2 and both are combined to give you your Complete A level score

So despite these grades that I view as great and despite having a strong application i was rejected from Cambridge (Sydney Sussex university) campus code 3

I applied for mechanical engineering and my 3 A-level subjects where Mathematics Physics and Biology

As for the reasons I think I was rejected for there are a couple
Mainly that I didn't take advanced mathematics as I have clearly mentioned in my application and thats because it's not provided at my school neither at any close examination center

Secondly because : (I'm an international student applying privately not through a school encase I Forgot to mention that) My referee was my English teacher as he was my class teacher and for some reason (probably because he has not got many requests to fill recommendation forms for UK unis through the UCAS (My school is situated in Saudi in case i failed to mention that) so he filled my reference form using his personal email (@gmail) not his work email (@jis.alhussan.edu.sa) so maybe my reference didn't look legit

But that all I can think of and no matter how I think of it I still cant find a satisfying reason to why I was rejected .
~~~Maybe I'm just being SALTY but enlighten me if you've got a reason I didn't think of .

Thanks in advance
So lets just outline the facts:
GCSEs excellent grades but only 7 taken.
A-levels top predictions and good track record.

Your PS is fairly average imo, also no need to not mention family in it, for example instead of saying I worked as a trainee for my uncle... You could have gone with: I was fortunate to gain a trainee position in a company specialising in mechanical fans, this taught me... I could relate the mechanical operation back to physics of... {just my opinion, but saying you spent time in your family's companies just doesn't help an application}

You also will have had to complete an interview where Cambridge will make a better informed decision of your abilities, also given you did not take further maths (fair, given it was not offered) did you choose to take STEP? and if so this could have been used in the decision process.

Go get 3A* and go get a great degree, fantastic grades but sometimes this just isnt enough for Oxbridge.
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Ryan220022 sorry you got rejected, you can always take the year off and reapply with your achieved grades. If you do, I really think it would be beneficial for you to revisit your personal statement. In my opinion, it is lacking experiences which show you are capable to carry out independent study for the subject you're passionate about. Just mentioning your family connections isn't sufficient, you need to explain how you personally arranged things to further expand your knowledge rather than relying on your family. Don't compare the UK to your own country, just say why the UK education system. suits you as a person etc etc
Best of luck.
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I mean I know that their acceptance rates are low but this is on another level let me give you some context (I'm using a throw away account because I don't to reveal my true identity)

I achieved 6A*s and 1A in my GCSEs (math bio chem physics enlgish humanbio arabic) these where the subjects

I scored 3 a in my (AS level )
and was expected 3A* in my (A2 level) for those unfamiliar with the international A-level system it's basically split into 2 parts AS and A2 and both are combined to give you your Complete A level score

So despite these grades that I view as great and despite having a strong application i was rejected from Cambridge (Sydney Sussex university) campus code 3

I applied for mechanical engineering and my 3 A-level subjects where Mathematics Physics and Biology

As for the reasons I think I was rejected for there are a couple
Mainly that I didn't take advanced mathematics as I have clearly mentioned in my application and thats because it's not provided at my school neither at any close examination center

Secondly because : (I'm an international student applying privately not through a school encase I Forgot to mention that) My referee was my English teacher as he was my class teacher and for some reason (probably because he has not got many requests to fill recommendation forms for UK unis through the UCAS (My school is situated in Saudi in case i failed to mention that) so he filled my reference form using his personal email (@gmail) not his work email (@jis.alhussan.edu.sa) so maybe my reference didn't look legit

But that all I can think of and no matter how I think of it I still cant find a satisfying reason to why I was rejected .
~~~Maybe I'm just being SALTY but enlighten me if you've got a reason I didn't think of .
You don't have many GCSEs, lack FM (not your fault, but an issue) and your grades are not anything special for Cambridge. Lots of good candidates get rejected pre and post-interview. You'll have to wait for their feedback to really know why you were, but you're in good company. Oxbridge is always a "roll of the dice" application, IMO.

What did Imperial say?
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I mean I know that their acceptance rates are low but this is on another level let me give you some context (I'm using a throw away account because I don't to reveal my true identity)

I achieved 6A*s and 1A in my GCSEs (math bio chem physics enlgish humanbio arabic) these where the subjects

I scored 3 a in my (AS level )
and was expected 3A* in my (A2 level) for those unfamiliar with the international A-level system it's basically split into 2 parts AS and A2 and both are combined to give you your Complete A level score

So despite these grades that I view as great and despite having a strong application i was rejected from Cambridge (Sydney Sussex university) campus code 3

I applied for mechanical engineering and my 3 A-level subjects where Mathematics Physics and Biology

As for the reasons I think I was rejected for there are a couple
Mainly that I didn't take advanced mathematics as I have clearly mentioned in my application and thats because it's not provided at my school neither at any close examination center

Secondly because : (I'm an international student applying privately not through a school encase I Forgot to mention that) My referee was my English teacher as he was my class teacher and for some reason (probably because he has not got many requests to fill recommendation forms for UK unis through the UCAS (My school is situated in Saudi in case i failed to mention that) so he filled my reference form using his personal email (@gmail) not his work email (@jis.alhussan.edu.sa) so maybe my reference didn't look legit

But that all I can think of and no matter how I think of it I still cant find a satisfying reason to why I was rejected .
~~~Maybe I'm just being SALTY but enlighten me if you've got a reason I didn't think of .

Thanks in advance
Your personal statement was probably very bad. This is why us Brits spend time and energy on it (so we don't get rejected by our first choice universities).
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(Original post by Ryan220022)
I mean I know that their acceptance rates are low but this is on another level let me give you some context (I'm using a throw away account because I don't to reveal my true identity)

I achieved 6A*s and 1A in my GCSEs (math bio chem physics enlgish humanbio arabic) these where the subjects

I scored 3 a in my (AS level )
and was expected 3A* in my (A2 level) for those unfamiliar with the international A-level system it's basically split into 2 parts AS and A2 and both are combined to give you your Complete A level score

So despite these grades that I view as great and despite having a strong application i was rejected from Cambridge (Sydney Sussex university) campus code 3

I applied for mechanical engineering and my 3 A-level subjects where Mathematics Physics and Biology

As for the reasons I think I was rejected for there are a couple
Mainly that I didn't take advanced mathematics as I have clearly mentioned in my application and thats because it's not provided at my school neither at any close examination center

Secondly because : (I'm an international student applying privately not through a school encase I Forgot to mention that) My referee was my English teacher as he was my class teacher and for some reason (probably because he has not got many requests to fill recommendation forms for UK unis through the UCAS (My school is situated in Saudi in case i failed to mention that) so he filled my reference form using his personal email (@gmail) not his work email (@jis.alhussan.edu.sa) so maybe my reference didn't look legit

But that all I can think of and no matter how I think of it I still cant find a satisfying reason to why I was rejected .
~~~Maybe I'm just being SALTY but enlighten me if you've got a reason I didn't think of .

Thanks in advance
There's no need to be salty.

Thinking your grades are great isn't helpful - they are quite average and there are students with 6 A-Levels at A*/A applying.

How do you know your application was strong?
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You only have 7 GCSEs, which is not a lot, and your PS is far from brilliant. In the UK, having connections is not something to be proud of - you are expected to be proactive and organise things yourself instead of relying on family to organise things for you. Also, you haven't said why any of your qualities or experiences would make you a suitable candidate for the course that you are applying for. You haven't really sold yourself with that PS - the last paragraph is OK (though you still need to say why those things would make you a good engineer), but the rest of it is not great.
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Are you aware just how competitive Cambridge is for International applicants?

On a quick look it appears that in 2018, for engineering, 113 offers were made to 657 applicants, so 17%. At Sidney Sussex 2/16 international applicants got offers. As others have said, and as you can see from the FOI linked below, almost everybody has all A/A* grades. They tend to interview fewer Internationals as it is so expensive and time-consuming for internationals to get to interview.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque..._passthrough=1
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So lets just outline the facts:
GCSEs excellent grades but only 7 taken.
A-levels top predictions and good track record.

Your PS is fairly average imo, also no need to not mention family in it, for example instead of saying I worked as a trainee for my uncle... You could have gone with: I was fortunate to gain a trainee position in a company specialising in mechanical fans, this taught me... I could relate the mechanical operation back to physics of... {just my opinion, but saying you spent time in your family's companies just doesn't help an application}

You also will have had to complete an interview where Cambridge will make a better informed decision of your abilities, also given you did not take further maths (fair, given it was not offered) did you choose to take STEP? and if so this could have been used in the decision process.

Go get 3A* and go get a great degree, fantastic grades but sometimes this just isnt enough for Oxbridge.
Thanks a ton for your time dude appreciate it. (I know its not the end of the world and tbh it's their loss 100% what makes Cambridge a great uni is its student's members and staff and I can firmly tell you they just missed out on a great student that possibly could've done great research)
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Yea makes sense but it just burns right in the chest I worked hard for it but Oh well what can I do more than this thanks for the help
Please remove the e-mail addresses from your post.

You could have self-studied F Maths ... anyway, in my opinion, there are better places to study engineering these days.
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