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Cardiff Airport Petition

Cardiff Airport Petition

We call on the government to begin the process of selling Cardiff Airport, as was the will of the house in VM570. Her Majesty’s Government are ignoring the fact that the house can act as the devolved legislatures and that they themselves can act as the devolved governments in order to benefit their own wishes and agenda, which is simply unacceptable.


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I reject the claim that we can act on the behalf of the devolved governments.

In any case, both motions and petitions are non-binding.
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Aye, despite the second point Fez raises.

As for his first, if we can act as devolved legislatures then surely the government can act as devolved governments?
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Aye, despite the second point Fez raises.

As for his first, if we can act as devolved legislatures then surely the government can act as devolved governments?
Our lovely speaker even ruled that it is reasonable to extend devolved powers to motions and petitions, meaning surely the government can act as the devolved governments to implement them.
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I reject the claim that we can act on the behalf of the devolved governments.

In any case, both motions and petitions are non-binding.
You might want to speak to the Speaker about that one, or will you ignore Speaker's rulings you don't like just as you ignore petitions/motions you don't like?

It also isn't entirely true to say petitions are non-binding, there is just no actual penalty for ignoring your constitutional obligations
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You might want to speak to the Speaker about that one, or will you ignore Speaker's rulings you don't like just as you ignore petitions/motions you don't like?

It also isn't entirely true to say petitions are non-binding, there is just no actual penalty for ignoring your constitutional obligations
There's a technical requirement to respond, not to actually enact any change.
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Oh here we go again
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This may sound silly but what's the main difference between a motion and a petition.
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This may sound silly but what's the main difference between a motion and a petition.
A motion is submitted by an MP, a petition is done by non-MPs. Furthermore I think there is a rule where the government is obliged to respond to petitions, but this is not the case for motions.
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A motion is submitted by an MP, a petition is done by non-MPs. Furthermore I think there is a rule where the government is obliged to respond to petitions, but this is not the case for motions.
Where's the rule requiring governments to respond?
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Where's the rule requiring governments to respond?
In the GD
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If they refuse the will of the house on this then we should create a bill ordering the Secretary of State to take action!
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If they refuse the will of the house on this then we should create a bill ordering the Secretary of State to take action!
Which will also be ignored, if you're writing a bill write it to do what the government refuses to
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Surely the best plan of action in order to tackle inaction is to write primary legislation forcing the sale of Cardiff Airport?
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Surely the best plan of action in order to tackle inaction is to write primary legislation forcing the sale of Cardiff Airport?
If you want to do it robustly it is waaaaaayyyyyy easier said than done, been looking into that sort of thing recently. Of course there is a cheap and cheerful few line thing that has next to no critical detail, but that's lazy and boring
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Division, clear the Lobbies!
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