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BBC News - HIV infections among gay and bi men fall by 71% in UK
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51122979
This is fantastic news! Education works, hopefully soon the pointless ban on sexually active gay and bi men on donating blood can be lifted.
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My condolences to every homophobe who relied on the "BUT AIDS" argument.
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This drug theyre demanding, that wouldnt be the one that costs about $2k a month would it?
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This drug theyre demanding, that wouldnt be the one that costs about $2k a month would it?
What prep? Preps like... super affordable?
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What prep? Preps like... super affordable?
I am merely quoting what i read online, vis-a-vis the price tag. Although if you have a source for its price in the UK please do share it.
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I am merely quoting what i read online, vis-a-vis the price tag. Although if you have a source for its price in the UK please do share it.
https://dean.st/prepshop/
£17 a month from an actual retailer which is only available to NHS patients seems very different to 2k.
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https://dean.st/prepshop/
£17 a month from an actual retailer which is only available to NHS patients seems very different to 2k.
Ahh gotcha, should have seen that coming. I was looking at an American pricing it seems.
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Ahh gotcha, should have seen that coming. I was looking at an American pricing it seems.
I wont lie, its astonishing someone online admitted they were wrong!
Ribbing aside the american healthcare system is one you have to be really careful about when it comes to drug prices since a lot are artificially inflated due to patents. I mean, just look at how much a shot of insulin will run you in America.It's boderline dystopian.
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Hopefully the 71% fall in male HIV diagnosis figures in the UK since 2012 is reflective of fewer men becoming infected and in turn indicative of very low transmission levels.
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(Original post by princetonalec)
BBC News - HIV infections among gay and bi men fall by 71% in UK
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51122979
This is fantastic news! Education works, hopefully soon the pointless ban on sexually active gay and bi men on donating blood can be lifted.
The title is not quite right. Its a 71% drop in new infections.

Prep seems amazingly effective!
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The title is not quite right. Its a 71% drop in new infections.

Prep seems amazingly effective!
You're right on that, but I figured sincethe BBC wanted to report it as a 71% drop it'd be disingenuous for me to report it any different to how they did.
Very happy for the news on it though! The HIV/AIDS crisis is still super traumatic for a lot of gay and bi men still alive today, and having something like PrEP widely available makes me hope we can avoid another crisis like it.
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Awesome news
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(Original post by princetonalec)
BBC News - HIV infections among gay and bi men fall by 71% in UK
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51122979
This is fantastic news! Education works, hopefully soon the pointless ban on sexually active gay and bi men on donating blood can be lifted.
gay men represent a small amount of the population yet over 50% of those diagnosed are gay.

The ban is there to protect people.

and i'm not being homophobic either. I'd welcome a ban on africans giving blood or any other place where the hiv rate is high.
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gay men represent a small amount of the population yet over 50% of those diagnosed are gay.

The ban is there to protect people.

and i'm not being homophobic either. I'd welcome a ban on africans giving blood or any other place where the hiv rate is high.
Isn't the blood screened anyway though?
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Isn't the blood screened anyway though?
I would have thought so, but there has got to be some reason for not letting them donate? ...maybe the tests aren't that accurate or something
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Isn't the blood screened anyway though?
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I would have thought so, but there has got to be some reason for not letting them donate? ...maybe the tests aren't that accurate or something
Yeah I was thinking... Cant they know if an individual has HIV? The article says 93% of those infected are diagnosed.
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(Original post by princetonalec)
BBC News - HIV infections among gay and bi men fall by 71% in UK
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51122979
This is fantastic news! Education works, hopefully soon the pointless ban on sexually active gay and bi men on donating blood can be lifted.
probably thanks to prep
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I'm no expert but there's a window for infection.

It takes a few months for it to show up on tests, I believe up to 3, so someone who has recently been infected could potentially give blood and test negative.
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(Original post by ANM775)
gay men represent a small amount of the population yet over 50% of those diagnosed are gay.

The ban is there to protect people.

and i'm not being homophobic either. I'd welcome a ban on africans giving blood or any other place where the hiv rate is high.
"we test every blood donation but there is a small possibility that very recent infections don’t get picked up but may still be passed on through blood."
but the same thing applies to straight people so i don't see the point
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