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EtonWorldDoppler
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There has been recent news that a flood of illegal firearms into Britain from Russia and Eastern Europe is of great concern to police forces and the National Crime Agency (formerly SOCA).

You also saw the PM on his trip to different parts of England and talking to the general public and you might have been concerned at the low security (despite the fact some nutter could just jump out). Security for government officials and the Royal Family pales in comparison to the beefed up security we see in some countries like the USA and France and Germany.

Therefore, do you think that armed security should be beefed up, in light of a flood of illegal firearms into Britain (overwhelmingly semi-automatic and automatic rifles from Russia and Eastern Europe through "underground networks")?

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(Original post by EtonWorldDoppler)
There has been recent news that a flood of illegal firearms into Britain from Russia and Eastern Europe is of great concern to police forces and the National Crime Agency (formerly SOCA).

You also saw the PM on his trip to different parts of England and talking to the general public and you might have been concerned at the low security (despite the fact some nutter could just jump out). Security for government officials and the Royal Family pales in comparison to the beefed up security we see in some countries like the USA and France and Germany.

Therefore, do you think that security should be beefed up, in light of a flood of illegal firearms into Britain (overwhelmingly semi-automatic and automatic rifles from Russia and Eastern Europe through "underground networks")?

Thoughts?
Of course BoJo and the Queen need to have a discussion on the security levels on Britain
I remember in some news a policeman in UK got shot
That's kinda saying something
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Boris can be quite easy to shoot at on account of him being a bit of a turd. :sadnod:
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Firearms aren't that big of an issue unless they actually have ammunition which is far harder to get hold of than firearms.
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TBH unless you already know the details of their protection arrangements there is no point speculating further. Pretty sure they know what guns are.
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(Original post by EtonWorldDoppler)
There has been recent news that a flood of illegal firearms into Britain from Russia and Eastern Europe is of great concern to police forces and the National Crime Agency (formerly SOCA).

You also saw the PM on his trip to different parts of England and talking to the general public and you might have been concerned at the low security (despite the fact some nutter could just jump out). Security for government officials and the Royal Family pales in comparison to the beefed up security we see in some countries like the USA and France and Germany.

Therefore, do you think that security should be beefed up, in light of a flood of illegal firearms into Britain (overwhelmingly semi-automatic and automatic rifles from Russia and Eastern Europe through "underground networks")?

Thoughts?
Apparently according to some statistics they estimate there are around 550,000 registered people who can legally carry a firearm in the U.K. that is shotguns and hunting rifles used for sport. A big problem at the moment is European organised crime gangs buying deactivated guns and reactivating them, this is done by removing the barrier between the firing pin and then smuggling them back into England through the black market. The MP Jo Cox was murdered by a legal firearm that her murderer had stolen from a legal holder.
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(Original post by StriderHort)
TBH unless you already know the details of their protection arrangements there is no point speculating further. Pretty sure they know what guns are.
They do not need their security ramped up, they have the bikers and personal security, people heavily underestimate the outriders who carry mp5s in the back of their motorbikes
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A big problem at the moment is European organised crime gangs buying deactivated guns and reactivating them, this is done by removing the barrier between the firing pin and then smuggling them back into England through the black market. The MP Jo Cox was murdered by a legal firearm that her murderer had stolen from a legal holder.
I dunno how recent that is, at least 20 years? I used to have a couple of handguns adapted for blanks, but it was just some crappy light alloy filling, pretty open secret the shop would melt it back out for the right price. The one that were done properly with harder stuff would need a proper gunsmith or machine shop to fix (even then good chance it'll rupture when fired). Almost any starting pistol i've seen in recent years is specifically made...like the barrel block is part of the casting, steel bars in magazines and chambers ect. I assume there's still a decent supply of the old crap ones knocking about though.
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(Original post by Greywolftwo)
Apparently according to some statistics they estimate there are around 550,000 registered people who can legally carry a firearm in the U.K. that is shotguns and hunting rifles used for sport. A big problem at the moment is European organised crime gangs buying deactivated guns and reactivating them, this is done by removing the barrier between the firing pin and then smuggling them back into England through the black market. The MP Jo Cox was murdered by a legal firearm that her murderer had stolen from a legal holder.
Eastern Europe still have swathes of Soviet weaponry left over, it isn't to alter them.
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