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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51266509

Today it was announces that after a vote passed by the Welsh assembly, Wales will bring in a smacking ban in 2022 following Scotland.

It has caused some spilts, the Conservative Parties Janet Finch Saunders stated that " the state was stepping into the private lives of families"

The legislation removes the reasonable punishment in cases of common assault. Julie Morgan, who broke a Labour whip in 2015 to suppport this, praised the move and added it could extend to shaking.

Labour and Plaid backed the law, whilst the Conservatives were split.


Should The rest of the U.K introduce this? At what point do laws of this nature cross the line from protection to getting too involved in people's lives.
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Aww yes, well why not? I mean it has worked so well so far, it's not like there is a lack of discipline in the classroom or rising levels of violence, at home, at school and in the street.... oh wait...:rolleyes:
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Yes, absolutely. Children deserve the same rights to protection from assault as adults do. If a random man came up to a child and hit them because he didn't like what they were doing, it would be totally unacceptable and he'd get in trouble, yet if the child's dad did it, it would be fine?
Teaching children that hitting those smaller and weaker than them is acceptable to get them to do what you want is not an acceptable in any way.
I instantly lose respect for anyone who would use violence on anyone defenceless, especially a child.
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Terrible idea. Children are already far too spoilt these days.
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Terrible idea. Children are already far too spoilt these days.
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Terrible idea. Children are already far too spoilt these days.
plus how will they monitor it? can cause problems
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(Original post by Andrew97)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51266509

Today it was announces that after a vote passed by the Welsh assembly, Wales will bring in a smacking ban in 2022 following Scotland.

It has caused some spilts, the Conservative Parties Janet Finch Saunders stated that " the state was stepping into the private lives of families"

The legislation removes the reasonable punishment in cases of common assault. Julie Morgan, who broke a Labour whip in 2015 to suppport this, praised the move and added it could extend to shaking.

Labour and Plaid backed the law, whilst the Conservatives were split.


Should The rest of the U.K introduce this? At what point do laws of this nature cross the line from protection to getting too involved in people's lives.
no, absolutely not!!!
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Aww yes, well why not? I mean it has worked so well so far, it's not like there is a lack of discipline in the classroom or rising levels of violence, at home, at school and in the street.... oh wait...:rolleyes:
Care to substantiate any of this with data?
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As long as the kid isn’t getting hit with a stick they’re probably gonna be fine
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Evidence shows that physical discipline, and even verbal discipline, is not effective in either the short term or long term and is associated with later problems in life, such as depression, anxiety and, ironically, antisocial behaviour.

Based on that, I am all in favour of banning smacking.
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Evidence shows that physical discipline, and even verbal discipline, is not effective in either the short term or long term and is associated with later problems in life, such as depression, anxiety and, ironically, antisocial behaviour.

Based on that, I am all in favour of banning smacking.
The only problem is, society is getting worse since we have tried it your way.
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Evidence shows that physical discipline, and even verbal discipline, is not effective in either the short term or long term and is associated with later problems in life, such as depression, anxiety and, ironically, antisocial behaviour.

Based on that, I am all in favour of banning smacking.
So you suggest kids should be allowed to do whatever they want when they are growing up without any kind of discipline?
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Boy I love the Welsh government, intervening and telling people how to parent their children.
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i was a kid who got hit, and i’m not grateful for it. i’m one of the few who actually acknowledge that it harms your emotional and mental development. most claim they ‘turned out fine’. however, i do think this will affect ethnic minorities the most in the most negative way.

for most of these parents, it’s the only way they know. not to justify the behaviour, but it is hard to separate the abusive parents from the ones that hit as a punishment, but not impossible. most of them truly love their child and stop hitting after a certain age. i think the older you get, the more you understand that.

however, the problem is how to enforce and regulate this. what if the child is lying? (trust me, it’s happened) what if it’s not frequent and just a one off? how will they even find out? what will a sufficient punishment be? i don’t think just because you hit your child, they should be taken away from you. i don’t think it should/should have been passed..
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(Original post by SHallowvale)
Evidence shows that physical discipline, and even verbal discipline, is not effective in either the short term or long term and is associated with later problems in life, such as depression, anxiety and, ironically, antisocial behaviour.

Based on that, I am all in favour of banning smacking.
Aww so i should never discipline my kid then (if i were to have one)?!? and you wonder why I am not a fan of my Generation (Gen Z)
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The people in this thread that think violence is synonymous with discipline is worrying.
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I always find it shocking the number of people on TSR that try to justify violence against children but they would be very unlikely to justify that same violence against adults.

If you have to resort to violence in order to control and discipline your child then you have failed as a parent, violence is never the answer to discipline.

Children should be afforded the same protection from violence that we afford to both adults and even animals.
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no, in this case, government should stay out of family business. if the kid is not being molested or getting 15th century torture, they should stay out of it.
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I always find it shocking the number of people on TSR that try to justify violence against children but they would be very unlikely to justify that same violence against adults.

If you have to resort to violence in order to control and discipline your child then you have failed as a parent, violence is never the answer to discipline.

Children should be afforded the same protection from violence that we afford to both adults and even animals.
There’s a difference between violence and discipline
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There’s a difference between violence and discipline
by definition, beating your kids as discipline is violence, because you're doing it with the intent to hurt.
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