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hey,

I am considering going into teaching training as a secondary school teacher for textiles (design and technology) and I am struggling to make my mind up what to do.
I am looking at the school direct programme but don't currently have any experience working in a school so would love some advice on what would be the best route for me to take?

I am also scared to do it because I am currently employed as a textiles designer which I would have to quit, and after the course would be left unemployed. The last thing that keeps worrying me is people talk about the massive work load and I worry about what if I started the course and wasn't good enough or enjoying it?

would love to speak to someone or just get some advice
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If you're interested in receiving some classroom experience before your teacher training, you may find it worthwhile to checkout the DfE's School Experience Service at <https://schoolexperience.education.gov.u k/>. You'll be able to find schools in your local area that are willing to open their doors to future applicants and book an experience day with them.

As to your concerns regarding employment: many teacher training providers have published information about the percentage of their trainees who secure a teaching position upon completion of their placement.

You're certainly not alone with your third issue - it's something I gave a lot of thought to in the weeks leading to my application. You may find that questions like this (what's involved, workloads etc.) can be answered at a Get Into Teaching event. It looks like there are many of these events throughout the UK in the upcoming months - hopefully one of them is in a town/city convenient for you: <https://getintoteaching.education.go...eaching-events>

Edit: For some reason I haven't been able to embed the first link I provided. If you have trouble finding it, just search 'get school experience'.
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hey,

I am considering going into teaching training as a secondary school teacher for textiles (design and technology) and I am struggling to make my mind up what to do.
I am looking at the school direct programme but don't currently have any experience working in a school so would love some advice on what would be the best route for me to take?

I am also scared to do it because I am currently employed as a textiles designer which I would have to quit, and after the course would be left unemployed. The last thing that keeps worrying me is people talk about the massive work load and I worry about what if I started the course and wasn't good enough or enjoying it?

would love to speak to someone or just get some advice
Hello
I'm speaking as someone who had to defer my ITT due to the passing of a close relative.
Things I learnt:
- Please get as much teaching volunteer experience as possible
- Think about your personality- if you are the shy, retiring type, don't bother as you need to be a performer- not just to a class, but regular observations by heads, deputy etc etc
- The job will involve long hours
- The workload is HUGE- placement work, presentations, assignments etc etc
- Any little disturbance, e.g. unplanned illness could really damage your chances of success
I would urge you to really think if you have the passion for teaching
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Thankyou so much! These links look really useful I feel spending time doing research and especially after some school experience I will feel alot less nervous about it all
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If you're interested in receiving some classroom experience before your teacher training, you may find it worthwhile to checkout the DfE's School Experience Service at <https://schoolexperience.education.gov.u k/>. You'll be able to find schools in your local area that are willing to open their doors to future applicants and book an experience day with them.

As to your concerns regarding employment: many teacher training providers have published information about the percentage of their trainees who secure a teaching position upon completion of their placement.

You're certainly not alone with your third issue - it's something I gave a lot of thought to in the weeks leading to my application. You may find that questions like this (what's involved, workloads etc.) can be answered at a Get Into Teaching event. It looks like there are many of these events throughout the UK in the upcoming months - hopefully one of them is in a town/city convenient for you: <https://getintoteaching.education.go...eaching-events>

Edit: For some reason I haven't been able to embed the first link I provided. If you have trouble finding it, just search 'get school experience'.
Thankyou so much! These links look really useful I feel spending time doing research and especially after some school experience I will feel alot less nervous about it all
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Hello
I'm speaking as someone who had to defer my ITT due to the passing of a close relative.
Things I learnt:
- Please get as much teaching volunteer experience as possible
- Think about your personality- if you are the shy, retiring type, don't bother as you need to be a performer- not just to a class, but regular observations by heads, deputy etc etc
- The job will involve long hours
- The workload is HUGE- placement work, presentations, assignments etc etc
- Any little disturbance, e.g. unplanned illness could really damage your chances of success
I would urge you to really think if you have the passion for teaching
your right, I do need to really research into it and gain the experience. it's difficult with working full time but I know its important to do it, especially for myself to discover if I do enjoy it like I think I would. thankyou so much for your advice
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hey,

I am considering going into teaching training as a secondary school teacher for textiles (design and technology) and I am struggling to make my mind up what to do.
I am looking at the school direct programme but don't currently have any experience working in a school so would love some advice on what would be the best route for me to take?

I am also scared to do it because I am currently employed as a textiles designer which I would have to quit, and after the course would be left unemployed. The last thing that keeps worrying me is people talk about the massive work load and I worry about what if I started the course and wasn't good enough or enjoying it?

would love to speak to someone or just get some advice
For the sake of your sanity, relationships, and happiness don't even think of becoming a teacher in the UK. Don't get conned by the cheesy DfE TV adds, which Joseph Goebbels would be proud of. It's really appropriate that one of them is run regularly on the Horror Channel.

Here's what the vast majority of honest teachers will tell you:

  1. You will be expected to put up with truly awful behaviour from students.
  2. When they leave off you will be mercilessly bullied and humiliated by SLT.
  3. You will drown in admin that has no educational value whatsoever.
  4. If you last enough years to make it up the pay scale then you will probably be booted out on a trumped up capability charge to make room for someone cheaper.


Why do you think there's such a shortage of teachers in the UK, whereas countries like Canada have far too many. It's because teaching in the UK is a really **** job. Notice I used the word job and not profession. Unless your idea of a good time is being on the receiving end of a S & M session, walk away.
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For the sake of your sanity, relationships, and happiness don't even think of becoming a teacher in the UK. Don't get conned by the cheesy DfE TV adds, which Joseph Goebbels would be proud of. It's really appropriate that one of them is run regularly on the Horror Channel.

Here's what the vast majority of honest teachers will tell you:

  1. You will be expected to put up with truly awful behaviour from students.
  2. When they leave off you will be mercilessly bullied and humiliated by SLT.
  3. You will drown in admin that has no educational value whatsoever.
  4. If you last enough years to make it up the pay scale then you will probably be booted out on a trumped up capability charge to make room for someone cheaper.


Why do you think there's such a shortage of teachers in the UK, whereas countries like Canada have far too many. It's because teaching in the UK is a really **** job. Notice I used the word job and not profession. Unless your idea of a good time is being on the receiving end of a S & M session, walk away.
HAHAHAHAHAha...so true!! and how on earth did you get Goebbels, S & M and the Horror channel in one post is beyond me..
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hey,

I am considering going into teaching training as a secondary school teacher for textiles (design and technology) and I am struggling to make my mind up what to do.
I am looking at the school direct programme but don't currently have any experience working in a school so would love some advice on what would be the best route for me to take?

I am also scared to do it because I am currently employed as a textiles designer which I would have to quit, and after the course would be left unemployed. The last thing that keeps worrying me is people talk about the massive work load and I worry about what if I started the course and wasn't good enough or enjoying it?

would love to speak to someone or just get some advice
Hello!

I'm a DT teacher! I'd completed a degree in Graphic Design but ended up teaching resistant materials (wood/plastic work) textiles, graphic products, electronic products and food technology. I'd been lucky that I'd done a BTEC Nat Dip that covered textiles/ fashion and 3D modelling techniques, and that I'd completed an excellent teacher training course that exposed me to having to cut dove tail joints and sticking glove puppets. It's a brilliant subject and equipped me well to teach a wider range of subjects such as English, Geography, and PSHE! It meant that no year was ever the same.

The job I do now, is to support aspiring teachers choose the best course for them, and make a really strong application. My team and I are totally impartial about the different routes, and will empower you to make an informed choice. I don't feel there is a best 'route' for anyone, but there are better or worse course providers.

I would consider getting a day or two in a school to see what their DT departments are like. There are two methods of creating a DT time table - 1. A carousel where the students move around to the specialist teachers (ie food/textiles/systems and control/graphics etc) or 2. A carousel where the students stay with the same teacher, but may need to change rooms. I preferred the latter, as that we I got to know the children better and if there was a specific are that the struggled with (ie product analysis) then I could build on that skill in each material area. As a result of being an all-rounder, thus really employable too!

The workload is challenging. (But not often more so that other workplaces.) I found that I was trying to reinvent the wheel a lot when I was a new teacher. I wanted every powerpoint and worksheet to be branded with my dept logo (that one of our teachers had designed) and to look really slick! I soon found that actually, the learning does not improve by the aesthetic of the worksheets! Once I'd gotten over myself, I was able to have my schemes of work and work books completed and printed ready for Sept each year and so my planning became much better and my marking was easier as I could put it into a calendar. You do just get much better over time, to the extent I was doing fewer hours teaching than I was in this job!

If you'd like to chat further, or have help with an application for teacher training, please register here - Get into Teaching All of my team are fully qualified and experienced teachers (in my team alone we have over 200 years of classroom teaching experience!) and we are also expert in the application process for teacher training courses.

Best wishes for a fantastic teaching career!

Jane
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Hi Jane!

Thankyou for your informed response this has given me alot to consider.

would you recommend doing the extra B tec as I mainly only really know textiles or would other stuff be taught on the course?
I am currently ,looking at going down the school direct route because they offer a bursary and without it I couldn't afford to to the training at all. Since my post I have applied for school, experience and am just waiting for a response and signed up where you have said and I am expecting my phone call with one of your colleagues tonight 🤞

Thanks again,
Amelia
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Hi Jane!

Thankyou for your informed response this has given me alot to consider.

would you recommend doing the extra B tec as I mainly only really know textiles or would other stuff be taught on the course?
I am currently ,looking at going down the school direct route because they offer a bursary and without it I couldn't afford to to the training at all. Since my post I have applied for school, experience and am just waiting for a response and signed up where you have said and I am expecting my phone call with one of your colleagues tonight 🤞

Thanks again,
Amelia
Hello Amelia

Yes, there is a LOT to think about, but that's what Get into Teaching are here for. To point out any banana skins and help speed up the application process!

No, I wouldn't recommend doing a BTEC qualification, but the SKE would be useful. You obviously don't need to learn more about textiles, but the RM, Food, Electronics etc. would be good to develop skills of. Having said that, my DT technicians at my teaching practice and many of the people on my course were really helpful in up-skilling me in things I wasn't sure about!

University, School Direct and SCITT courses would include the bursary, provided you have a 2:2 or above in your degree and hold British citizenship. Therefore, I wouldn't rule out any providers at this stage in the game.

I'm so pleased you've reached out for support. Please let me know if you need any more help!

Jane
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