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Rakas21
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(Original post by LiberOfLondon)
I would be all for the EU if it was a free trade bloc. I strongly oppose the move towards federalisation and the inherent loss of sovereignty involved in that.
I don't personally consider it our business and believe in the internal sovereign choices of other states.

At any rate I suspect that some folk like Farage will be disappointed and consider the risk of an outright breakup to be very low albeit as it becomes more federal I think it may gain a few smaller states while losing two or three others (most of the Balkans will join, Italy is probably the most likely to leave).

Those think that seeing us do alright will fuel movements don't really understand why all but a few countries joined.

The only thing to prompt a breakup would be them doing something truly stupid like actually allowing Turkey to join.
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I don't think it really is that big a factor in the low esteem in which politicians are held, I think the fact that so many politicians think themselves so much better than everybody else is one of the bigger factors. The general sentiment of the motion I can agree with, although not necessarily the extent.
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I refuse to withdraw my remarks, for the reason that opposing the democratic will of the people and putting your personal beliefs forward at the expense of impartiality are despicable, anti-democratic and lead to a slippery slope.

One might also add that Mosley, like Bercow, supported a single European state.
Do I really have to point out the fact that you have literally no evidence of John Bercow being impartial?

Also, just because a fascist in the past shared a similar take on Europe does not mean that that opinion or viewpoint is fascist in itself. A socialist can still believe in the free market even though the free market isn't itself a socialist principle or invention.

Finally, you may want to re-read your reply and just make sure your sentences contain accurate grammatical content. I apologise for mentioning this but improper use of the English language really is... well... improper.
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Division, clear the lobbies!
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