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Today is a sad day for nearly all ordinary people across Britain (and many elsewhere) - leaving the EU will not do anything for the average worker, the less well off, the people in the depressed areas of the North and Midlands who voted for it - it will lead to long term economic lagging behind Europe and other developed countries.

We cannot sign better trade deals with any major country than we had within the EU. The other main potential partner, the US, will seek only to exploit us and to take advantage, whilst offering little in return.

Many of our major industries, such as aerospace, automotive manufacture, pharma and construction, will all reduce their UK workforces and seek relocation to the EU.

The people behind Brexit - offshore tax evaders, the super rich, a tiny number of very wealthy financiers - will benefit from the sort of low-tax country the Tories now propose the UK become.

It is likely that government revenues will decline, causing reductions in everything from social care to the NHS and benefits to the state of the roads and railways.

We are entering a long period of economic decline, which by 2030 will leave us about 1/3 less well off than we otherwise should have been.

Most younger people should really be planning to leave. :sad:
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utter rubbish.
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It is sad we are leaving but on the other hand, I have just got to Safi'jiva on Monster Hunter World for the first time so will be running the siege tonight. Let's go.
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utter rubbish.
But explain what aspects of her statement are wrong? Because based on what I’ve studied the negative effects that will come after the transition period will hit hard
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utter rubbish.
Make some serious points rather than just a two word meaningless statement?
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For some people it may be sad.
For others it a start to a new era.
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For some people it may be sad.
For others it a start to a new era.
A new era of what exactly?
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I know.
RIP
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A new era of what exactly?
A new era of depression
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A new era of what exactly?
Hopefully in time to come prosperity, managing our own affairs without the EU, dictating what we can and cannot do.
Remember the vote was to leave, so I guess better late than never.
And if it is going to take 18, months to 2, years before we see any results then so be it.
It is the will of the people.
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utter rubbish.
Sure, what the OP said is "utter rubbish" to anyone who listens to people like Boris Johnson and his team of eurosceptics (who, by the way, are all pathetic, pathological liars). All you need to do is apply some basic common sense, do a bit of research, and you'll find that 80% of what Boris Johnson promised in terms of leaving the EU is either a) a lie, or b) an exaggeration of the truth. Brexit is a big mistake, and people will realise this in a couple of years and regret voting for it.

If you can't be bothered to put some thought into doing research, please, list me all the benefits of leaving the EU for all of us to see.
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Hopefully in time to come prosperity, managing our own affairs without the EU, dictating what we can and cannot do.
Remember the vote was to leave, so I guess better late than never.
And if it is going to take 18, months to 2, years before we see any results then so be it.
It is the will of the people.
It was the will of 52% of those who voted - and it would probably be different now. It was mainly the will of the elderly, leaving us to live with the consequences.

The EU didn't dictate to us, we signed off on all agreements and directives and we were behind many of them. The majority of them were better for us than the things decades of ultra-right wing governments are likely to do for us.
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It was the will of 52% of those who voted - and it would probably be different now. It was mainly the will of the elderly, leaving us to live with the consequences.

The EU didn't dictate to us, we signed off on all agreements and directives and we were behind many of them. The majority of them were better for us than the things decades of ultra-right wing governments are likely to do for us.
That's what I love about this country.
Freedom of speech.
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ok boomer
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If nothing else today represents a great victory for democracy. That's anything but sad.
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They picked their fate, let them enjoy it.
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They picked their fate, let them enjoy it.
Lol
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It was proven that Vote Leave have had american support, using that money to sway voters with fake promises.
Democracy is listening to the will of the people at ALL TIMES, not just when it suits them. The general consensus from economic experts, companies and the government's very own emergency plan is that leaving the EU will be a devastating blow.

I understand that people want their vote carried out but if a nation changes it's mind, which it clearly has, then that change should be listened to. The opinion of people who are able to vote now is much different to those who voted in the last general election. May I also remind you all that the overwhelming majority of the people who voted leave are on the elder side of things, whom are also more likely to vote conservative. This is not me having a go at older people - i'm merely saying that opinion has changed and we should be looking to make the country better for the youth first. They're our future, after all.

I would be perfectly okay with leaving, despite my strong opinion against it, if we'd had a second referendum either late last year or this year to judge opinion once more - to disapprove or prove the deal, with a NON-FPTP voting system (since this is clearly broken, parties aside). If we'd accepted it now, then that'd be fine.

Problem is, we don't and didn't.
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We are doomed. I was born in the UK and loved this country. But I plan on moving back to my home country in the South of France very soon. London is a ******** now, It is not what it once was, I will not miss it one bit. Au revoir!
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