BREXIT: the Great Question (what did you vote for in 2016?)Watch this thread
Once it was done I accepted that we needed a Brexit of some sort, even if it had been the softest, floppiest Brino one could imagine.
Didn't care one way or the other (and I still don't), as I could see both sides and I don't expect it'll make any significant difference to my life either way. But I still wanted to vote, so I voted for the side I disliked the least.
Ideologically I have a lot in common with leavers, and when it comes to ideological arguments I tend to find myself agreeing with them. I am not a fan of globalization, or the EU at all..
But practically, its far better for me and my family to be in the EU. Especially for my wifes family, leaving the EU is a big problem.. Its also a huge risk, and while I don't think we are doomed in the way that Remainers think we are.. I think that we have put a huge amount of faith into the goverment to get through this very difficult time, And I am not confident they can do it.
In the end, family comes first, so I voted to remain.
Then there is the arguments that have been said time and time again for years. I cannot be bothered to repeat them all.
Although i was essentially a Clarke style Federalist as recently as the 2014 EU elections (voted Lib Dem since there was no EPP candidate) i had always had an underlying nationalist streak (proud of our imperial past, confident in our abilities as a nation ect..) and so over 2015 a combination of the refugee crisis and learning more about the EU, it's structures and the potential economic impact of leaving (long run growth of 1.8% rather than 2.2% is not something that will cripple the nation) meant that i entered 2016 somewhat undecided and with the economic argument diluted for me i eventually came to the view that sovereignty was the priority issue for me and that being subject to the rulings of a foreign court was actually somewhat offensive in addition to secondary issues like CAP, the CFP (an island nation being part of the CFP is literally ******ed) and Germany's efforts to unilaterally pollute the continent with the third world and then worse try enforce quotas on others.
Thus i voted Leave supporting a soft Brexit. I went on to support a hard Brexit as i realised the extent of what membership of the single market means and saw Ireland (supported by the EU) effectively try a land grab on Northern Ireland.
I was more than happy with a soft Brexit, I voted labour in 2017 and hoped that they would stick to their word, they didn't. At this point labour lost me altogether and amazingly I voted Tory in 2019.
My reasons for voted leave was idealistic here is a few ;
1) First and foremost I voted to end the superiority of EU law. I dont see how our courts should answer to the EU? I understand we have common agreed rules to be part of a trading block, however the EU went further than being a trading block, I wanted to remove the superiority of EU law.
2) As a socialist, i take exception to the EU enforcing regressive taxes on us that hurt the poorest. I believe in progressive taxation, I used VAT as an example on here in the past.
3) While talking about socialism, there are some in the EU that champion the Scandinavian model, however its unlikely to go anywhere but even if they managed to enforce it, (which they wont) the potential socialist tenancies of those in the EU are not going to benifit the UK taxpayer for decades maybe even centuries because as one of the richest in the block we are the ones paying for the poorest nations in the block. Also because of the voting tenancies of recent years the poorest of our own has been hit hardest, I understand this is not the EUs fault, the question was what is best for Britain.
4) The EU has a large amount of unelected (or not directly elected) burocrats which make decisions over the running of our nation. I understand this will counter the most extreme of each political side (both left and right), more so the right but should people not get what they vote for? Maybe its time for the public to get the Conservative party warts an all, its a democracy after all.
5) The remain camp was championing the reformed EU, but I saw the option of remaining in a reformed European Union as a non starter because Cameron got told to go skippy!
There are many reason but theres a few, I'm not going to bother writing anymore
I have always been opposed to the political side of the EU since it changed from being a simple trade bloc and would have voted to leave in the referendum that we should have had in 1992 before Mr Major sold us out.