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Original post by BigFudamental
What course?


Oh right, Land Economy.
Original post by suggsina
Neither of us will back down, that's the thing. Not being arsey but I think based on the fact my UMS is higher I should get first pick. :colone: That's at least one way of deciding.

Thanks everyone who posted! It looks like he's gonna choose another one anyway :crossedf: Although i feel kinda bad about pushing him out :colondollar:


That is arsey. No one should get first pick.

I see you've done what I did - manipulate people into favouring their second preference college!:tongue: It's the only way.:colondollar:
Reply 2942
Hey

I'm applying to Cambridge this year (for Economics) and am considering applying to Gonville and Caius. I am in y13 and already have an A* in Maths and A in French, and am doing Further Maths, Economics and Physics (targeted A*A*A*). I am just still nervous about applying, etc and I was just wondering how else is applying and what they are doing? what subject you are applying for?

If anyone has already applied to Cambridge or is already there, advice please!!

Good Luck to everyone! :smile:
I've decided to apply to Magdalene College
OK now I'm not sure as St Edmund's have now given a positive reply as have Downing so I now have 3 colleges to choose from. I really don't know what to do. Everything suggests I should go for St Edmund's with it being a mature college and perhaps "less competitive" than say Trinity and Downing but I did have my heart set on Trinity. Also as far as I am aware Trinity and Downing don't ask for any admissions tests or essays whereas St Edmund's requires the TSA and I'm not sure how I would fare with that. Any advice?
Oh okay. Me and someone else from my school applied to the same college, but i was pooled away. People said afterwards (a teacher actually told this to some pupil) that it was because you can't have two people at the same college... however i assumed from my mediocre interview that was just a myth, i'm sure Eton send more than one person to a college routinely?
Reply 2946
I would avoid it for the social reasons too. For example, a boy at my college also applied to Christ's and didn't get in and thereafter it was really awkward walking through corridors and seeing him. It would only affect your application, theoretically, if you apply for the same course because, I suppose, then there's more competition at that college than there would otherwise have been. That, to me, seems like a silly reason not to apply to that college though.
Reply 2947
Cambridge aren't going to turn down someone they want just because one of their schoolmates is also a good candidate. If your school does any more than encouraging you to move you can resist, it's your choice ultimately.

I can see why they'd want to do it for social/self-esteem reasons or whatever but it just depends how the unsuccessful person takes it. I applied to the same college as another guy in my year and was successfull whereas he wasn't, but he took it well and just accepted it. Even if you think someone is going to be arsey about it though just apply where you want to.
Original post by The Mr Z
That is arsey. No one should get first pick.

I see you've done what I did - manipulate people into favouring their second preference college!:tongue: It's the only way.:colondollar:


I don't think it is arsey. If I have UMS that gives at least an average chance of getting in, why should I then have to choose a different college if his lower than average (for Cam) score means he probably won't even get in anyway?
Original post by Lyam
I would avoid it for the social reasons too. For example, a boy at my college also applied to Christ's and didn't get in and thereafter it was really awkward walking through corridors and seeing him. It would only affect your application, theoretically, if you apply for the same course because, I suppose, then there's more competition at that college than there would otherwise have been. That, to me, seems like a silly reason not to apply to that college though.


Yeh It might be awkard for a week, most people get over cambridge after a few days... To be honest most colleges are the same anyway, the OP shouldn't make an enemy of this other person just for a college, you might even get pooled away!
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yeah, was discouraged in my school as well... one time it happened and there had been a fight over who gets to apply
Original post by suggsina
I don't think it is arsey. If I have UMS that gives at least an average chance of getting in, why should I then have to choose a different college if his lower than average (for Cam) score means he probably won't even get in anyway?


It's not about making a valuation of your candidates and determining who gets priority on that basis. You make the decisions in order that all your candidates will be happy to go to the college they apply to.
You'd be wrong anyway, what you're going by is no more than guesswork, even the schools that send the most pupils to Oxbridge cannot accurately predict which of their candidates will get in.

Also, add arrogant to arsey.
Original post by The Mr Z
It's not about making a valuation of your candidates and determining who gets priority on that basis. You make the decisions in order that all your candidates will be happy to go to the college they apply to.
You'd be wrong anyway, what you're going by is no more than guesswork, even the schools that send the most pupils to Oxbridge cannot accurately predict which of their candidates will get in.

Also, add arrogant to arsey.


What i'm saying is that there's no fair way to make that valuation. There has to be some way of distinguishing them and UMS seems fairly objective.

In this situation, there was no way either of us was going to be happy by not choosing this college, so your solution just doesn't work.

And while you can't say who will get in, you can with some likelihood operate a UMS threshold below which it is quite unlikely they'll get in. What if he was below this?

I'm not being arrogant, it's nothing at all to do with pride to say I got higher UMS than him, I'm afraid that's just fact. I'm not trying to say I'm a better person than him because of it, but going on what my school has told me about the Cambridge selection process, exam scores seem to be the most relevant thing in this situation. They might be wrong, but that's all I can base my judgement on.
To the OPs point, I think it may be a slight disadvantage to the weaker of the two applicants, but not so much (provided it's a course and college with fairly sized intake).
Original post by suggsina
What i'm saying is that there's no fair way to make that valuation. There has to be some way of distinguishing them and UMS seems fairly objective.

In this situation, there was no way either of us was going to be happy by not choosing this college, so your solution just doesn't work.

And while you can't say who will get in, you can with some likelihood operate a UMS threshold below which it is quite unlikely they'll get in. What if he was below this?

I'm not being arrogant, it's nothing at all to do with pride to say I got higher UMS than him, I'm afraid that's just fact. I'm not trying to say I'm a better person than him because of it, but going on what my school has told me about the Cambridge selection process, exam scores seem to be the most relevant thing in this situation. They might be wrong, but that's all I can base my judgement on.


That's where you're wrong - there doesn't have to be any way for the school to distinguish who gets to apply where. Not only is it completely irrelevant how many people from the same school apply to each college, but if they had to be separated it should only ever be by mutual convenience.

UMS are far from objective when considered alone, without all the obvious unknowns like personal statements, BMAT for medics, and interview performance.

And clearly the other person has chosen a different college, so they were happy not choosing that college. Or are you saying you've been rather a bully?
Original post by suggsina
OK, thanks for the info. Its just that our UCAS co-ordinator told us that we should avoid it. Basically there's two of us that want to go to the same college, and she dissaproves :rolleyes:



Was that really worth it?



I've learned through experience that ucas co-ordinators and careers advisors chat the biggest pile of crap. The irony of them being in a position like that when most of them have barely accomplished much in terms of academics and work and then giving advice on such matters.

Just so you know, from my college a girl and me both got offers at the same college. Wasn't same subject though. Regardless, it makes no difference.
Original post by iammichealjackson
Oh okay. Me and someone else from my school applied to the same college, but i was pooled away. People said afterwards (a teacher actually told this to some pupil) that it was because you can't have two people at the same college... however i assumed from my mediocre interview that was just a myth, i'm sure Eton send more than one person to a college routinely?


Correct. Take it from me. Be sceptical of information you get about oxbridge from people who didn't go there.
Original post by Gridiron-Gangster
OK now I'm not sure as St Edmund's have now given a positive reply as have Downing so I now have 3 colleges to choose from. I really don't know what to do. Everything suggests I should go for St Edmund's with it being a mature college and perhaps "less competitive" than say Trinity and Downing but I did have my heart set on Trinity. Also as far as I am aware Trinity and Downing don't ask for any admissions tests or essays whereas St Edmund's requires the TSA and I'm not sure how I would fare with that. Any advice?

Go for the college you most want to go to, which in your case is Trinity. If you don't get in there, you may be still pooled if you are good enough quality, so I would just pick the college you like most.
Original post by It could be lupus
Go for the college you most want to go to, which in your case is Trinity. If you don't get in there, you may be still pooled if you are good enough quality, so I would just pick the college you like most.


I guess the best thing to do then is visit both colleges and decide. Although I guess st ed's being matures only et al might be better placed to accommodate my needs and I'd be surrounded by similar aged people. I do think Trinity is stunning though!
Original post by Gridiron-Gangster
I guess the best thing to do then is visit both colleges and decide. Although I guess st ed's being matures only et al might be better placed to accommodate my needs and I'd be surrounded by similar aged people. I do think Trinity is stunning though!


There's nothing to stop you wandering around Trinity as a student - you're free to come and go as you please. An advantage of Ed's is that it probably doesn't have even half as many tourists. :biggrin:

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