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.Ali.
Why does wearing Jack Wills make someone pretentious? ... Also, at least so called 'Jack Wills wearing cliquey types' are cultured.


Lol.

.Ali.
ridic


Mega-lol.

Anyway you're ranting completely off-topic, no-one else cares about your perceived class war.

OP - I'd say Queens' is the least and Jesus the most, of those 3, but that's obviously based on a pretty small sample of their whole population and highly subjective. Also I haven't found rah culture in Cambridge to be too irritating anywhere, everyone here's a geek first and some other social stereotype second.
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Blaah
Lol.



Mega-lol.

Anyway you're ranting completely off-topic, no-one else cares about your perceived class war.

OP - I'd say Queens' is the least and Jesus the most, of those 3, but that's obviously based on a pretty small sample of their whole population and highly subjective. Also I haven't found rah culture in Cambridge to be too irritating anywhere, everyone here's a geek first and some other social stereotype second.


Lol I didn't start it, I just said people shouldn't keep having a go at rahs and that it's all rather silly, and because I said something about chavs as well, some inverted snobs became offended.


Oh and what's funny about 'ridic'?
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.Ali.
Yeah okay, lets discuss class. I'm not doubting that you've studied it more in depth than me, you're older than me for one, plus you're specialising in sociology, so yeah. Doesn't mean I don't know anything about it though. Yeah I agree, lifestyle is based on financial means. However, poor people could save what money they have and go out to an art gallery for example? Or make a picnic (not very expensive) and take their children to the country for a day? Also, the theatre isn't particularly expensive all the time, you can go to cheaper shows.


Yeah, that's right. It doesn't mean you can't do cultured things if you're poor however. Maybe instead of appearing on Jeremy Kyle screaming about their ex not making payments, they could buy a couple of books and teach their children about politics, watch the news and keep up to date with current affairs. You don't have to be a millionaire to do that.

They're better quality, they don't go out of shape easily, the material feels nice, the stitching is done very well, and they make sure the stripes match up all the way around. I'm not just saying that before you say "that's what the marketing want you to think" or anything, I'm saying it because I have one of those t-shirts. I'd much rather wear those t-shirts tbh.



You know full well that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about benefit scroungers who don't work because they don't want to. They don't pay tax. They think the world owes them a living.


Omg, you can get a book for about £5. There's no excuse not to have books in the house. Also, local library? There are plenty of access routes to reading material.

No, it doesn't. I think it's a shame, but I blame the parents to be honest. Middle class families don't have smarter children, they raise smarter children. They spend time with them, take them out to places, buy them educationally stimulating toys, instead of sticking them in front of the TV.

Yeah, okay, lets discuss this also. As I've said, I'm aware you've studied it in more depth than I have. But yes, I believe it does. We live in a relatively free market, everyone has chances, some don't take it.




Being poor is no excuse, to be honest. As I've said, there's plenty you can do that doesn't require a lot of money.

I think we're hijacking the thread lol...



You're still entirely missing the point. The point is not that people in poverty cannot afford to go to the theatre in cheap seats, or buy books, or join a library, or eat well. Indeed, lots of these things can be done on a decent budget. The point is that these are trappings of the middle-classes - they are essentially bound up in the culture of being middle-class. It is very difficult to 'get into' a certain culture when you have never been exposed to it before. These things you talk of, nice middle-class educational activities, will be alien to a lot of people below the poverty line. It's not that they can't be done cheaply, it's that because of the culture and background some classes have, they would never think to do them, or know how to go about doing them even if it did cross their mind.
There's no such thing as "rahs".

The End.
.Ali.
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I guess what I am saying above would, in your ugly terms, be translated as - "poor people don't know any better".
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OrdinaryDay
You're still entirely missing the point. The point is not that people in poverty cannot afford to go to the theatre in cheap seats, or buy books, or join a library, or eat well. Indeed, lots of these things can be done on a decent budget. The point is that these are trappings of the middle-classes - they are essentially bound up in the culture of being middle-class. It is very difficult to 'get into' a certain culture when you have never been exposed to it before. These things you talk of, nice middle-class educational activities, will be alien to a lot of people below the poverty line. It's not that they can't be done cheaply, it's that because of the culture and background some classes have, they would never think to do them, or know how to go about doing them even if it did cross their mind.


Exactly, which is why it's so annoying. They have the opportunity, but they have the most backwards attitude so they won't take it. It's not difficult, it's their attitude coupled with the fact that they're uneducated.
Reply 1926
OrdinaryDay
I guess what I am saying above would, in your ugly terms, be translated as - "poor people don't know any better".


Yes, which is annoying, because if they wanted to, they can go out there and get it.

Btw I don't have an issue with poor people or whatever, some are perfectly nice, just chavvy types.
Get Cape.Wear Cape.Fly.
There's no such thing as "rahs".

The End.


I'm quite confused on what the definition of Chav is on this site. :s-smilie:

Oh and good morning cape. :u:
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Reply 1928
FinalFlash
I'm quite confused on what the definition of Chav is on this site. :s-smilie:

Oh and good morning cape. :u:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WDnukuUc84 This is a chav. :p:
.Ali.
Exactly, which is why it's so annoying. They have the opportunity, but they have the most backwards attitude so they won't take it. It's not difficult, it's their attitude coupled with the fact that they're uneducated.


The "attitude" you are talking about is learned from childhood. It is in no way their fault. It is arguably not even a problem - who says going to the theatre makes you a better person?


We don't have that in London....Well at least in East London I've never seen them. :unsure:

Are these Chavs in your eyes?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xze3iScphe0
FinalFlash
I'm quite confused on what the definition of Chav is on this site. :s-smilie:

Oh and good morning cape. :u:

Who cares? Why waste time labelling people? Associate with people you like and ignore those you don't.

Who woke you up so early, eh? This is unusual :p:
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OrdinaryDay
The "attitude" you are talking about is learned from childhood. It is in no way their fault. It is arguably not even a problem - who says going to the theatre makes you a better person?


Yes it is, they can get out of there if they want to. It's not a problem, hmm? Okay then, so it's right for them to steal £100 worth of makeup out my bag and smash it because "you can afford to buy more."? Or right to slap me round the face for "talking like a posh prick"? Right for them to commit crimes? Right for them to sponge off of the taxpayers? :rolleyes:
Get Cape.Wear Cape.Fly.
Who cares? Why waste time labelling people? Associate with people you like and ignore those you don't.

Who woke you up so early, eh? This is unusual :p:


You know...I never heard the term chav untill like a year ago. :dontknow:

I had a nightmare, you left TSR and we had to talk on MSN. :frown:

[Spoiler] Mummy woke me up to look after my little bro while she does shopping. :yawn: [/Spoiler]
Reply 1934
I've not come across a rah just yet... is it something like a chav with a little bit of class, and quite a lot of money?
.Ali.
Lol I didn't start it, I just said people shouldn't keep having a go at rahs and that it's all rather silly, and because I said something about chavs as well, some inverted snobs became offended.


Oh and what's funny about 'ridic'?


This thread has an opening post asking a question, one person's answer to the question, and then your post including the phrases "I've found most people bitching about them are cheap tacky jealous chavs" and "Rah > chavs by a long shot." No-one mentioned chavs, no-one made any inaccurate, sweeping generalisations about rahs, and no-one asked for opinions on the whole class extremes debate. In fact the OP said "I know some people say it doesn't matter all that much, but i was really not happy at this previous school", stating that a dislike of rahs is her personal opinion and not the intended point of discussion.

In other words; I believe you did 'start it'.

Its ridic funny.
.Ali.
Yes it is, they can get out of there if they want to. It's not a problem, hmm? Okay then, so it's right for them to steal £100 worth of makeup out my bag and smash it because "you can afford to buy more."? Or right to slap me round the face for "talking like a posh prick"? Right for them to commit crimes? Right for them to sponge off of the taxpayers? :rolleyes:

You're so dramatic. I've been told I speak posh, yet I've never been assaulted - the most annoying I've got is a few crappy jokes. There's probably more to it than that for you to get such abuse :facepalm2:
.Ali.
Exactly, which is why it's so annoying. They have the opportunity, but they have the most backwards attitude so they won't take it. It's not difficult, it's their attitude coupled with the fact that they're uneducated.


Oh god because things that middle class people do are just so much more AMAZING than things everyone else does. And no, poor people do not occupy themselves solely with crime.

There is no such thing as being "more cultured". Everybody who has been socialised possesses some kind of culture. You are not better because you go to the theatre or the opera or the ballet or wear expensive t-shirts or play polo or do any of the other things you like to think are so much more "cultured".

I say this as someone who did apply for scholarships to private school (although I didn't take them), who does go to the theatre and read books: you're a ******* spacktard.
Reply 1938
I'm not sure what's more cringeworthy - some ordinary middle-class suburban kid dressing like a chav and trying to act all ghetto, or some ordinary middle-class suburban kid dressing in Jack Wills, adopting painfully contrived notions of snobbery and trying to pretend they are posher than they are.

It's too naff for words :p:
Reply 1939
FinalFlash
We don't have that in London....Well at least in East London I've never seen them. :unsure:

Are these Chavs in your eyes?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xze3iScphe0


Yes. They are.

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