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If everyone became vegan what would happen to the animals? As no body would use then for meat, wool and farmers will have no use for them...
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thats not how it works. farmers will breed less animals over time until its not profitable to breed anymore animals, so they shutdown after all the current animals have been slaughtered.
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If everyone became vegan what would happen to the animals? As no body would use then for meat, wool and farmers will have no use for them...
Maybe they will grow crops shock horror? Uplandands may well return to their natural state and attract tourism or outdoor pursuits?
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Maybe they will grow crops shock horror? Uplandands may well return to their natural state and attract tourism or outdoor pursuits?
Yeah but if everyone’s eating crops because they are vegan they will grow out of places to plant
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Yeah but if everyone’s eating crops because they are vegan they will grow out of places to plant
wat?
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Yeah but if everyone’s eating crops because they are vegan they will grow out of places to plant
They won't. We use about ten times more land to grow crops for farm animals than we do humans.
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Maybe they will grow crops shock horror? Uplandands may well return to their natural state and attract tourism or outdoor pursuits?
Much of Britain's grassland is not suitable for sustainable crops which is why we grow grass rather than arable. People aren't farming livestock because they make good money on it, they do it because that is what the land can reasonably be used for without mass fertilising which obviously drops your profits significantly and has environmental impacts.
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Yeah but if everyone’s eating crops because they are vegan they will grow out of places to plant
19% of land in the UK is used to grow crops, 51% is used for pasture.

Although it’s very unlikely we’d ever reach the point we don’t eat animals it’s more likely that we’d increase crop production to solve our trade deficit in non-fish food but that there’d be a lot of surplus land which would be sold for development.
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19% of land in the UK is used to grow crops, 51% is used for pasture.

Although it’s very unlikely we’d ever reach the point we don’t eat animals it’s more likely that we’d increase crop production to solve our trade deficit in non-fish food but that there’d be a lot of surplus land which would be sold for development.
Or rewilding would be even better! But one way or another we agree that decreasing animal product demand frees up land.
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19% of land in the UK is used to grow crops, 51% is used for pasture.
How much is croppable?
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How much is croppable?
How long is a piece of string?

It is far more complicated than can you grow stuff on it especially when considering the environmental impact it may have.
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How long is a piece of string?

It is far more complicated than can you grow stuff on it especially when considering the environmental impact it may have.
wiki says 25%

Well yeah but then much of that grassland is already an environmental disaster.
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Or rewilding would be even better! But one way or another we agree that decreasing animal product demand frees up land.
There is no profit in rewilding and we are not really short of land now.
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How much is croppable?
No idea however it's probably reasonable to assume half.
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wiki says 25%

Well yeah but then much of that grassland is already an environmental disaster.
Most grassland is very well maintained, what are you alluding to?
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No idea however it's probably reasonable to assume half.
Surely most of it is hill side and flood plain
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Most grassland is very well maintained, what are you alluding to?
It used to be forest.
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There is no profit in rewilding and we are not really short of land now.
There is no immediate profit, but biodiversity has enormous value to the country in ways less easy to calculate.
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Surely most of it is hill side and flood plain
In the north and west yes but between London and Nottingham is field after field of relatively flat land. Without a full analysis though, one can't really say.
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It used to be forest.
How long ago?

1000 years ago woodland covered an estimated 15% of the UK, now it covers 13%.

https://www.rfs.org.uk/media/441738/...-woodlands.pdf
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Yeah but if everyone’s eating crops because they are vegan they will grow out of places to plant
We have from here to the sky to grow plants:

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