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The CA decided to affirm the decision made by the government to revoke terrorist Shamima Begum's passport setting a new precedent in English Law...that immigrants awarded citizenships are not equal to natives holding citizenships....that immigrants awarded citizenships are less British than the natives of this country.
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I'd have more sympathy is it wasnt a terrorist...
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ethnic brits are more british than immigrants, who wouldve thought
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I'd have more sympathy is it wasnt a terrorist...
You have to look at the bigger picture here. This girl/woman is a British terrorist. She was never held to account for her terrorism by Britain. Britain has instead of holding her to account for her crimes revoked her citizenship because she is the daughter of immigrants to this country. The punishment does not fit the crime. The punishment is entirely based on her ethnicity. It is entirely racist. This decision is huge. Its repercussions for people holding dual citizenship in this country is huge. It is the british government telling all brown people in this country...you are not equal to the whites...we do not consider you members of this country in the same way we consider the whites members of this country....this is huge......
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You have to look at the wider picture here. This girl/woman is a British terrorist. She was never held to account for her terrorism by Britain. Britain has instead of holding her to account for her crimes revoked her citizenship because she is the daughter of immigrants to this country. The punishment does not fit the crime. The punishment is entirely based on her ethnicity. It is entirely racist. This decision is huge. It is the british government telling all brown people in this country...you are not equal to the whites.
I don't think that's quite right, I think its saying if youre a terrorist, we are going to abandon you. Let them be charged in the country as to where they committed the crime.
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Does this surprise you? This has been the law for quite some time - when I applied for British citizenship, having a permanent visa (not even citizenship) of another country entitles the UK to deport me there if I ever commit certain crimes.
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She had the ability for another nationality and a danger to the nation, so couldn't care less.

Colour/race by being born on this particular rock to a particular mother is not the only determinant of being British
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She had dual nationality and a danger to the nation, so couldn't care less.

Colour/race by being born on this particular rock to a particular mother is not the only determinant of being British
No, she doesn't. She's entitled to Bangladeshi citizenship through descent, but she is not a citizen. And Bangladesh have publicly said they would not give her citizenship.

That's exactly what it is, if you're white.
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No, she doesn't. She's entitled to Bangladeshi citizenship through descent, but she is not a citizen. And Bangladesh have publicly said they would not give her citizenship.

That's exactly what it is, if you're white.
She is a danger to the UK so dont blame them for shifting her asap using any excuse available, great news

doubt many people naturalised fled to IS lol

Yes - i was saying you can be British, but not as shallow as just ethnicity by the chance of being born to the right mother in the right country, but often stems to many diverse areas of identity
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No, she doesn't. She's entitled to Bangladeshi citizenship through descent, but she is not a citizen. And Bangladesh have publicly said they would not give her citizenship.

That's exactly what it is, if you're white.
No it is if you are entitled to citizenship through descent, from a different country. If they had citizenship from descendants in say Germany, the law would have still stood, and we would not let them back.

Bottom line, don't join a terrorist organisation.
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I am dual nationality and I could not care less.
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Bottom line, don't join a terrorist organisation.
Ya don't go chopping people's head's off or we'll be racist!! makes a ton of sense.
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Ya don't go chopping people's head's off or we'll be racist to you!! makes a ton of sense.
What's racist about what happened? She is entitled to Bangladeshi citizenship, no matter what they say. And so we have every right to remove citizenship, as we should as she is a danger to society. Its not about race its about actions.
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What's racist about what happened? She is entitled to Bangladeshi citizenship, no matter what they say. And so we have every right to remove citizenship, as we should as she is a danger to society. Its not about race its about actions.
Its racist because a white British person committing the same exact crime as this woman would not be liable for this same punishment. Its law that is unequal. Its law that treats citizens of the same country differently based on nothing but their genetic heritage, their ancestry. Its racist.

What does this decision by the court appeal tell us? That native citizenship is superior to immigrant citizenship, that white citizenship is superior to brown citizenship. Its not only racist its xenophobic.
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The CA decided to affirm the decision made by the government to revoke terrorist Shamima Begum's passport setting a new precedent in English Law...that immigrants awarded citizenships are not equal to natives holding citizenships....that immigrants awarded citizenships are less British than the natives of this country.
I dont care who you are, if you are an ISIS member or Al Queda or similar and we can strip you of your citizenship then good, im glad. Dont care if your born here awarded, applied or however else you get your citizenship.

Its simply the case that shes legally entitled to another citizenship, yes its pretty **** diplomacy towards Bangladesh but also **** isis
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Its racist because a white British person committing this same exact crime as this woman would not receive this punishment. They would not be denied their citizenship. What does this tell us? That native citizenship is superior to immigrant citizenship, that white citizenship is superior to brown citizenship. Its not only racist its xenophobic.
How do you know they wouldn't? I think what happened is they were making an example out of her to deter ISIS brides even more.
I think if it was a white British person we would all be in favour of their citizenship being revoked too.
Youre just speaking in hypothetical.
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That native citizenship is superior to immigrant citizenship, that white citizenship is superior to brown citizenship. Its not only racist its xenophobic.
I get that you're not the sharpest tool in the shed, but surely even you have realised that this applies to all immigrants, white or not? The ruling would have applied if she was of, say, German or Swedish descent.
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She is a danger to the UK so dont blame them for shifting her asap using any excuse available

doubt many people naturalised fled to IS lol

i was saying you can be British, not just about ethnicity by the chance of being born to the right mother in the right country, but often stems to many areas of identity
That's the problem. I don't particularly care about keeping her but using any excuse available to get rid of someone isn't right, and won't stop at terrorists. I care more about the precedent this could set, and the notion that if you commit a crime and you're not white, it's deportation time. British nationals are British... not whatever colour/race they might be.

And I'm saying if you're white, who you're born to i.e a white mother and father, is the only determinant of being British. They can't be deported, can they? So what you said is wrong. Only immigrants, and children of immigrants (who are British born, and not naturalized) , have to prove their "British identity"
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That's the problem. I don't particularly care about keeping her but using any excuse available to get rid of someone isn't right, and won't stop at terrorists. I care more about the precedent this could set, and the notion that if you commit a crime and you're not white, it's deportation time. British nationals are British... not whatever colour/race they might be.

And I'm saying if you're white, who you're born to i.e a white mother and father, is the only determinant of being British. They can't be deported, can they? So what you said is wrong. Only immigrants, and children of immigrants (who are British born, and not naturalized) , have to prove their "British identity"
It applies to all people, regardless of race. If they were white and had a right to Swedish nationality per say, they would still be dismissed of their British citizenship.
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How do you know they wouldn't?
Because they cannot give this punishment to anyone that does not have dual citizenship i.e. natives of this country. Its law that has been purposely written as to exclude whites from suffering this punishment. its purposely designed to target British people of a different ethnicity.


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I think what happened is they were making an example out of her
I do not think it is right for a person who partakes in activities such as mass murder to be denied their citizenship. This punishment does not fit the crime.

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ISIS brides even more.
I do not think it is right to use this term to describe this woman. It diminishes her role in terrorism. This woman is not an ISIS bride. This woman is a ISIS terrorist.

(Original post by AnonymousNoMore)
I think if it was a white British person we would all be in favour of their citizenship being revoked too. .
The law can only be used against people who have dual citizenship.
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