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Best universities BristolvsEdinburghvsWarwickvsshe ffieldvsYork

How would you rank this 5 unis from best to worst, most prestigious or well known.
I am just curious on opinions since different rankings say different things
Reply 1
Original post by Athena1939
How would you rank this 5 unis from best to worst, most prestigious or well known.
I am just curious on opinions since different rankings say different things


Why?
Reply 2
Original post by Doones
Why?


I find interesting that in some rankings one uni is supposed to be better than other and in others it's totally the other way round. for example: york is better than sheffield in The Guardian but sheff is better than York in QS.
Also, Warwick is always top from all of this but people recognise more the Uni of Edinburgh or Bristol than Warwick, in my opinion
That's why I'm curious what people might consider
Reply 3
It's funny, since starting uni I'm way less ready to rank different unis in my head like that. You don't know how little you know.
Reply 4
Original post by Athena1939
I find interesting that in some rankings one uni is supposed to be better than other and in others it's totally the other way round. for example: york is better than sheffield in The Guardian but sheff is better than York in QS.
Also, Warwick is always top from all of this but people recognise more the Uni of Edinburgh or Bristol than Warwick, in my opinion
That's why I'm curious what people might consider


Different rankings have different methodologies with different weightings.

So the results are different, although they are often fairly similar at the "top" end.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rankings_of_universities_in_the_United_Kingdom
Aside from the many varied and equally valid criticisms of most ranking methodologies, any notion of a "general ranking" is kind of a bit pointless, because you aren't studying "in general" at a university, you'll be studying a particular subject. Certain universities are much better known and stronger in particular subjects.

For example in your set, Warwick is one of the best universities in the country for maths, along with Imperial and Oxbridge, to which only Bristol and maybe Edinburgh can really compare. However Sheffield is much stronger for engineering than Warwick. When it comes to postgrad studies, where you become even more specialised, the notion becomes even less useful - Sheffield is one of the best, if not the best, universities for feminist philosophy research, while none of the others are particularly known for their philosophy departments at all.

If you were considering them in a general sense rather than subject based academic metrics, then you really would want to be focusing on aspects such as quality of life, costs of living, facilities afforded by each university, travel connections, etc. In that sense, Warwick tends to be less positively viewed because it's kind of in the middle of nowhere, and Bristol is of the most expensive cities in the UK. Sheffield and York I imagine would be much affordable, but possibly further away from where you live if you aren't from the North; likewise Edinburgh, although it's more expensive but with better travel connections (airport etc) than those two.

Funding issues might also be of relevance; for international students certainly, the huge costs university study in the UK involves is a major factor, along with the above. However also Scots students studying at a Scottish university have their tuition fees paid by SAAS, so don't take on additional tuition fee loans, which might make Edinburgh a preferable option for them (and likewise it would probably be nearer than most English univeristies).

Ultimately what is most important to you as an individual should be your priority, and league tables cannot tell you that (nor can anyone else). None of those universities is "bad" and your job prospects, provided you get a good classification in your degree and make a point to get some relevant work experience/internship/vacation scheme/etc during your degree, will likely be similar.
Reply 6
Original post by artful_lounger
Aside from the many varied and equally valid criticisms of most ranking methodologies, any notion of a "general ranking" is kind of a bit pointless, because you aren't studying "in general" at a university, you'll be studying a particular subject. Certain universities are much better known and stronger in particular subjects.

For example in your set, Warwick is one of the best universities in the country for maths, along with Imperial and Oxbridge, to which only Bristol and maybe Edinburgh can really compare. However Sheffield is much stronger for engineering than Warwick. When it comes to postgrad studies, where you become even more specialised, the notion becomes even less useful - Sheffield is one of the best, if not the best, universities for feminist philosophy research, while none of the others are particularly known for their philosophy departments at all.

If you were considering them in a general sense rather than subject based academic metrics, then you really would want to be focusing on aspects such as quality of life, costs of living, facilities afforded by each university, travel connections, etc. In that sense, Warwick tends to be less positively viewed because it's kind of in the middle of nowhere, and Bristol is of the most expensive cities in the UK. Sheffield and York I imagine would be much affordable, but possibly further away from where you live if you aren't from the North; likewise Edinburgh, although it's more expensive but with better travel connections (airport etc) than those two.

Funding issues might also be of relevance; for international students certainly, the huge costs university study in the UK involves is a major factor, along with the above. However also Scots students studying at a Scottish university have their tuition fees paid by SAAS, so don't take on additional tuition fee loans, which might make Edinburgh a preferable option for them (and likewise it would probably be nearer than most English univeristies).

Ultimately what is most important to you as an individual should be your priority, and league tables cannot tell you that (nor can anyone else). None of those universities is "bad" and your job prospects, provided you get a good classification in your degree and make a point to get some relevant work experience/internship/vacation scheme/etc during your degree, will likely be similar.


REALLY interesting perspective
Reply 7
Original post by Athena1939
REALLY interesting perspective


That's why I asked you "why?" at the outset.

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