Unconditional offers for medicine. Don’t know which one to choose. Exeter vs SGUL Watch

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I got places for medicine at university of Exeter and St. George’s medical school. As I already got the grades it’s just a matter of which one to choose now. Exeter is highly ranked and has a reputation( like everyone know it’s sick) but the town is soooo dead. Exeter is a Russel group uni and everything.

On the other hand St. George’s is not that famous ( most people don’t know where it is) ranking is low( I know ranking doesn’t matter that much in medicine) but I mean it’s London. There are endless things to do. I know people say London is expensive but that’s not a concern right now.


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I got places for medicine at university of Exeter and St. George’s medical school. As I already got the grades it’s just a matter of which one to choose now. Exeter is highly ranked and has a reputation( like everyone know it’s sick) but the town is soooo dead. Exeter is a Russel group uni and everything.

On the other hand St. George’s is not that famous ( most people don’t know where it is) ranking is low( I know ranking doesn’t matter that much in medicine) but I mean it’s London. There are endless things to do. I know people say London is expensive but that’s not a concern right now.


PLEASE help me with this. 👀
Well you have answered your own question.

As I work in London - in the NHS, I think you will find the patients more diverse, probably a bit ruder - but yep for you young ones London is exciting.
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...Exeter is a Russel group uni and everything....ranking is low( I know ranking doesn’t matter that much in medicine)...
Russell Group also doesn't matter in Medicine.

SGUL is really not in the RG because it does primarily healthcare courses.

Studying in London has its advantages and disadvantages. While you may see really rare things, it will probably detract you from seeing the bread and butter of what you will treat and diagnose as a doctor - unless you plan to sub-specialise in upper-torso bullet wound injury as a cardiothoracic surgeon (I am exaggerating!).
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Russell Group also doesn't matter in Medicine.

SGUL is really not in the RG because it does primarily healthcare courses.

Studying in London has its advantages and disadvantages. While you may see really rare things, it will probably detract you from seeing the bread and butter of what you will treat and diagnose as a doctor - unless you plan to sub-specialise in upper-torso bullet wound injury as a cardiothoracic surgeon (I am exaggerating!).
Er - no you aren't - a stroll through my A & E at the weekend sees many stab wounds and the occasional bullet injury -
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Er - no you aren't - a stroll through my A & E at the weekend sees many stab wounds and the occasional bullet injury -
Which is exactly what I am saying.

You'll see a lot of stuff that only really happens in London (yes I get stabbings occur in Exeter too), and therefore you will have relatively less time to see stuff that you'll really need to know in great depth (e.g. exacerbation of COPD).

I pitched this as an advantage in itself (if you wanted to be a cardiothoracic surgeon) or a disadvantage (if you just wanted to be a barn-door GP).
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Well you have answered your own question.

As I work in London - in the NHS, I think you will find the patients more diverse, probably a bit ruder - but yep for you young ones London is exciting.
Does that also mean u get to see a wider range of conditions then?
Thanks for replying btw
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Russell Group also doesn't matter in Medicine.

SGUL is really not in the RG because it does primarily healthcare courses.

Studying in London has its advantages and disadvantages. While you may see really rare things, it will probably detract you from seeing the bread and butter of what you will treat and diagnose as a doctor - unless you plan to sub-specialise in upper-torso bullet wound injury as a cardiothoracic surgeon (I am exaggerating!).
So you are saying that because the hospital is busier we would have less time to learn during the rotations? Does that not also mean a disadvantage of Exeter is that you don’t get to see enough traumas?
Thanks for replying btw
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So you are saying that because the hospital is busier we would have less time to learn during the rotations?
No, that's not the case. I am sure the Royal Devon and Exeter hospital is very busy too. It's just that the kind of diseases you see there are likely to be different from the diseases you see in St Georges Hospital (you will of course, still get chest infections in London).

Also you will have a timetable which means it is unlikely that you'll have more / less time compared to your colleagues studying elsewhere.

The GMC mandates the minimum amount of hours that you must spend clinically - so the time you'll spend on the wards will be similar.

Does that not also mean a disadvantage of Exeter is that you don’t get to see enough traumas?
Thanks for replying btw
Not just trauma, but other rarer stuff (just because London is an international city) - including rare international infections, really uncommon autoimmune diseases etc.

But as I said - is that good or bad though? It's unlikely that the UKMLA (which you'll have to take) will ask much (in detail!) about rare stuff you see in London.

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Does that also mean u get to see a wider range of conditions then?
Thanks for replying btw
Potentially.
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I got places for medicine at university of Exeter and St. George’s medical school. As I already got the grades it’s just a matter of which one to choose now. Exeter is highly ranked and has a reputation( like everyone know it’s sick) but the town is soooo dead. Exeter is a Russel group uni and everything.

On the other hand St. George’s is not that famous ( most people don’t know where it is) ranking is low( I know ranking doesn’t matter that much in medicine) but I mean it’s London. There are endless things to do. I know people say London is expensive but that’s not a concern right now.


PLEASE help me with this. 👀
St George's is one of the oldest medical schools in the English speaking world and attached to an internationally famous hospital - just look at the alumni list. None of that will make you a "better" medical student of course, but it's completely inaccurate to say it's not that famous!

Rankings and the Russell Group aren't important for medicine and should not form the basis of your decision making.

I think you should go with where you'd like to spend the next five or six years. Also have a look at the course structures and see if you have a strong preference.
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Does that also mean u get to see a wider range of conditions then?
Thanks for replying btw
I would agree with ecolier. He is a doctor.

You get more diverse patients in London - many have English as their second language so you have the added difficulty of getting a history.

I used to to work in Kent. - very white and middle class. I love working in London as the patients are more interesting - the diseases tend to be the same, but you get - I can't even put my finger on what is different to be honest. You get more trauma in London, more aggression. You have to be more aware of diversity purely because of the population ( I spend hours talking to them sometimes if I have the time - many have such interesting back stories)

London is expensive - expect to be paying £800 a month in rent at least plus add ons. Transport is expensive too. But as you say - it is London - the city that never seems to sleep
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