Is the Result of the EU Referendum Temporary & Circumstantial? Watch

ColinDent
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Mr Burton,

I think you are the one who is creating the problem as you take it too seriously when you respond to others.

You called me troll several times. Others Bigots and so on. But it doesn't bother me as you see.

As you criticize others for their views and theories othere will criticize you about your views and theories .

As for the thread in religion, it is a bit unfair that you pick me out of the crowd as everyone else is criticising beliefs which are unsubstantiated completely. Without of course not recognising the right someone has to believe what they want. Is the content of their beliefs me and others criticize.

Similarly with Brexit.
Actually I called you a troll Queenie, because that is what you're doing with this Loserpher account.
Burton merely suggested that I may be correct, so perhaps you will apologise to him.
Although you have never done so before.
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Dont worry. Everything is cool.

I am not getting offended.
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yes, obviously its circumstantial. Most political decisions are.

Things could change dramatically in the next 10-20 years, and if they do.. public opinion will change as well. Once pubic opinion changes, politics will follow slowly behind.

Will it? Who knows.. but could it? yes, there is nothing stopping it from being a possibility, which is enough to qualify it as 'circumstantial'
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We should definitely give it another thought in relation to a future referendum and to the relatorelationship with the European Union.

Many of us don't trust the Charlatans of Westminster and there is a great risk and danger that the National Interest will be damaged further. .

Already damaged with Brexit.

We have to see by how much
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yes, obviously its circumstantial. Most political decisions are.

Things could change dramatically in the next 10-20 years, and if they do.. public opinion will change as well. Once pubic opinion changes, politics will follow slowly behind.

Will it? Who knows.. but could it? yes, there is nothing stopping it from being a possibility, which is enough to qualify it as 'circumstantial'
Well it will, there is nothing so sure as things will change. Things changed in the 70's and drastically in the 80's and 90's to a right wing capitalist ideal. Then changed again to this neoliberal "unicorn" middle ground land where we have been ever since and will continue to be until there is outcry from the public. When will that come? I dont think it will be 20 years away put it that way.

I think my party messed up badly since 2017, we could have provided change and real meaningful change unfortunately brexit got in our way. You said we was like an art student who got a B by "chucking everything on the paper" so we just chucked a load more hoping for an A in the campaign. I probably argued against you because.... well... if I'm honest I found it hard to curb "campaign mode" old habits and all, but you were right. The public didn't want a 10 to 15 year plan, they want to put brexit to bed, more money for public services, the needy and to get on with their lives.

Labour should of delivered that message but we didn't, we turned into a middle class london centric EU obsessed party, trying to shine a radical democratic socialist direction. Realistically the two dont mix and the public dont like being played for fools, so we got a kicking.

Anyway I'm babbling, my original point was this current neoliberal center grounds days are numbered, change will happen it's just a question of time.

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Actually I called you a troll Queenie, because that is what you're doing with this Loserpher account.
Burton merely suggested that I may be correct, so perhaps you will apologise to him.
Although you have never done so before.
It wasn't just you Colin there was others too who saw the light, I'm just a bit slow. Well I am a leave voter after all
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Well it will, there is nothing so sure as things will change. Things changed in the 70's and drastically in the 80's and 90's to a right wing capitalist ideal. Then changed again to this neoliberal "unicorn" middle ground land where we have been ever since and will continue to be until there is outcry from the public. When will that come? I dont think it will be 20 years away put it that way.

I think my party messed up badly since 2017, we could have provided change and real meaningful change unfortunately brexit got in our way. You said we was like an art student who got a B by "chucking everything on the paper" so we just chucked a load more hoping for an A in the campaign. I probably argued against you because.... well... if I'm honest I found it hard to curb "campaign mode" old habits and all, but you were right. The public didn't want a 10 to 15 year plan, they want to put brexit to bed, more money for public services, the needy and to get on with their lives.

Labour should of delivered that message but we didn't, we turned into a middle class london centric EU obsessed party, trying to shine a radical democratic socialist direction. Realistically the two dont mix and the public dont like being played for fools, so we got a kicking.

Anyway I'm babbling, my original point was this current neoliberal center grounds days are numbered, change will happen it's just a question of time.


It wasn't just you Colin there was others too who saw the light, I'm just a bit slow. Well I am a leave voter after all
Good point, I'm quite surprised that we can even read long words like thick and stupid, let alone understand what they mean 😳
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Yes indeed change will happen. It's just takes time!

Especially now that we have a Circus of Far Right Charlatans & Clowns in Westninster who are very much against these neoliberal values and principles.

Besides, they stand for the same noble principles & values as all other far right clowns in Europe such as:

Nationalism
Populism
Bigotry
Racism
Propaganda
Deception & lies
And..... Stupidity & Idiocy
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