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I think the Joker was a good movie, and him a good actor, and thus deserving of the awards.

But I think he needs to relax with the vegan activism every time he's given an award. Rather than maybe talk about the movie and the issues of mental illness within it, for example, he has spoken about veganism. Every. Single. Time. He doesn't even talk about the movie he won the award for.

Rather, he insists and tries to pressure people to completely changing their personal lifestyles into never consuming anything derived from animals ever again. So, no essentials like milk, cheese, eggs, etc etc. That's a BIG ask.

I think if vegans really want to get people to start consuming less meat, they should start with promoting vegetarianism as opposed to veganism. They're not doing themselves any favours by expecting people to jump straight from meat-eating to plants.
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Rather, he insists and tries to pressure people to completely changing their personal lifestyles into never consuming anything derived from animals ever again.
It's not just a 'personal choice' if that decision impacts the life of another living being. If it infringes on what she be their rights as our fellow animals.
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So, no essentials like milk, cheese, eggs, etc etc. That's a BIG ask.
Nobody needs them, therefore they're not essentials.
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I think if vegans really want to get people to start consuming less meat, they should start with promoting vegetarianism as opposed to veganism. They're not doing themselves any favours by expecting people to jump straight from meat-eating to plants.
That's literally the definition of vegetarianism right there :facepalm: And anyway we don't want people to consume less meat - we want people to consume no meat, or any other animal product whatsoever. We don't think it's acceptable that people simply do less of a bad thing - we think that it is only right that people stop doing the bad thing altogether. Just like you wouldn't suggest to a serial killer 'perhaps try murdering only 2 or 3 people a year', it is unthinkable for us to propose a person continue to promote the abuse of any animal they can avoid doing that to.
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I will always remain a meat eater. Any who I wish that he touched on mental health at least a little. It related to the film far more than veganism
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(Original post by bloomer36)
I think the Joker was a good movie, and him a good actor, and thus deserving of the awards.

But I think he needs to relax with the vegan activism every time he's given an award. Rather than maybe talk about the movie and the issues of mental illness within it, for example, he has spoken about veganism. Every. Single. Time. He doesn't even talk about the movie he won the award for.

Rather, he insists and tries to pressure people to completely changing their personal lifestyles into never consuming anything derived from animals ever again. So, no essentials like milk, cheese, eggs, etc etc. That's a BIG ask.

I think if vegans really want to get people to start consuming less meat, they should start with promoting vegetarianism as opposed to veganism. They're not doing themselves any favours by expecting people to jump straight from meat-eating to plants.
I think nothing. I don't even know who the hell she is.
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It's not just a 'personal choice' if that decision impacts the life of another living being. If it infringes on what she be their rights as our fellow animals.
Nobody needs them, therefore they're not essentials.
That's literally the definition of vegetarianism right there :facepalm: And anyway we don't want people to consume less meat - we want people to consume no meat, or any other animal product whatsoever. We don't think it's acceptable that people simply do less of a bad thing - we think that it is only right that people stop doing the bad thing altogether. Just like you wouldn't suggest to a serial killer 'perhaps try murdering only 2 or 3 people a year', it is unthinkable for us to propose a person continue to promote the abuse of any animal they can avoid doing that to.
Pray tell why people should listen to this vegan quackery ?
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(Original post by bloomer36)
I think the Joker was a good movie, and him a good actor, and thus deserving of the awards.

But I think he needs to relax with the vegan activism every time he's given an award. Rather than maybe talk about the movie and the issues of mental illness within it, for example, he has spoken about veganism. Every. Single. Time. He doesn't even talk about the movie he won the award for.

Rather, he insists and tries to pressure people to completely changing their personal lifestyles into never consuming anything derived from animals ever again. So, no essentials like milk, cheese, eggs, etc etc. That's a BIG ask.

I think if vegans really want to get people to start consuming less meat, they should start with promoting vegetarianism as opposed to veganism. They're not doing themselves any favours by expecting people to jump straight from meat-eating to plants.
It's obviously a major belief of his. He's entitled to use his platform to broadcast it. It's up to us if we want to listen
I agree though, mental health is a much more major issue than veganism
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there is actually a big difference between vegetarianism and veganism. you have to actually read the label to find out whether there is no animal byproduct (in most cases there actually might be).

so Joaquin Phoenix should not express his opinion with you, is that correct?
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I think nothing. I don't even know who the hell she is.
sorry but why are you here? this thread is about HIM

I think he's pretty talented -> very good antagonist in the film Gladiator
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I'm not a fan of his acting or activism.
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All I know is that he plays Joker in the new movie, and something about the Oscars. That's it
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I find this incredibly ironic...
You are complaining about him ramming this damn veganism down people's throats, but you wouldn't mind people ramming damn mental health down people's throats? I accept that the film covers this a lot, yea sure, but mental health is rammed down people's throats a lot more than veganism is, and in my opinion, veganism is simply more important.

You won't agree with that, obviously, Phoenix believes it's important, and I believe it's more important. If they invite him to say something, he clearly feels he has the floor for the next few minutes, why not raise an issue of at least equal importance.
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i get him confused with Javier Bardem ?
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He has a really cool name!
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It's not just a 'personal choice' if that decision impacts the life of another living being. If it infringes on what she be their rights as our fellow animals.
Nobody needs them, therefore they're not essentials.
That's literally the definition of vegetarianism right there :facepalm: And anyway we don't want people to consume less meat - we want people to consume no meat, or any other animal product whatsoever. We don't think it's acceptable that people simply do less of a bad thing - we think that it is only right that people stop doing the bad thing altogether. Just like you wouldn't suggest to a serial killer 'perhaps try murdering only 2 or 3 people a year', it is unthinkable for us to propose a person continue to promote the abuse of any animal they can avoid doing that to.
Agreed
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That's literally the definition of vegetarianism right there :facepalm: And anyway we don't want people to consume less meat - we want people to consume no meat, or any other animal product whatsoever. We don't think it's acceptable that people simply do less of a bad thing - we think that it is only right that people stop doing the bad thing altogether. Just like you wouldn't suggest to a serial killer 'perhaps try murdering only 2 or 3 people a year', it is unthinkable for us to propose a person continue to promote the abuse of any animal they can avoid doing that to.
And who, exactly, is 'we'?
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And who, exactly, is 'we'?
Uh, vegans I'm guessing? lol
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Uh, vegans I'm guessing? lol
Well obviously...

It's the homogenous 'whole' where one can represent the entirety with a single pronoun that I take objection to.
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Well obviously...

It's the homogenous 'whole' where one can represent the entirety with a single pronoun that I take objection to.
How would you rather he said it? 'Myself, and other vegans who subscribe to the same opinion as myself'. Another alternative would be for him to say 'I', but he's speaking for a large consensus opinion, so it's fine. Veganism is a subscribed to opinion, therefore the use of 'we' is speaking of that group.

I think you're reading into that far too deeply lol, you just disagree with the opinion, not his use of pronoun.
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How would you rather he said it? 'Myself, and other vegans who subscribe to the same opinion as myself'. Another alternative would be for him to say 'I', but he's speaking for a large consensus opinion, so it's fine. Veganism is a subscribed to opinion, therefore the use of 'we' is speaking of that group.

I think you're reading into that far too deeply lol, you just disagree with the opinion, not his use of pronoun.
You're right that I disagree with the veganazi crap, yes.
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You're right that I disagree with the veganazi crap, yes.
I mean we're totally off topic I guess, but what particularly do you not like about it? I understand that you enjoy meat, and perhaps you're part of the camp that think it's unsustainable and we couldn't survive without it. But it's really not true. Eggs, meat, they are all not required to live, and in a society where we should strive to be the best we possibly can, why not change that too?
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