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Edinburgh entry requirements seeming low??

When first looking through prospectuses for a politics course, i had heard that Edinburgh was a good university (similar to bristol & warwick & ucl) reputation-wise. Yet when I look at the entry requirements for the politics or politics/w french it is BBB (whereas the other unis are around AAA-ABB)
I spoke to a woman at one of those ucas conventions and she said that the 'real' offers are likely to be a lot higher... although she didnt elaborate. and its possibly because edinburgh is oversubscribed, so there is more competition.. so, why does it say BBB, is it artificially higher.. and what should I be aiming for??
all advice welcome:confused:
I think it's because Edinburgh are more confident in the way they deal with applications than the way in which A-levels examine students. They think they can tell whether or not a student is good enough, and so no need to really press them to get high grades to secure their place.

I suppose it could also be something of a ploy. By offering lower offers than institutions of a similar calibre, they're more likely to be chosen as an insurance by students who would do well at the university? That's pure conjecture, though.
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hmm.. its not much of an insurance if you arent sure if there is a hidden agenda behind it all though! i could understand that if they interviewed all their candidates then the way they deal with applications would be more thorough and the grades wouldnt be everything but im not sure this is the case

i suppose i will have to just see if its worth thinking about after the open day.. although girton college is at the same time!

cheers
Reply 3
J-OD
hmm.. its not much of an insurance if you arent sure if there is a hidden agenda behind it all though! i could understand that if they interviewed all their candidates then the way they deal with applications would be more thorough and the grades wouldnt be everything but im not sure this is the case

i suppose i will have to just see if its worth thinking about after the open day.. although girton college is at the same time!

cheers


The idea is to take some of the pressure of students in their final exams, which means the entrance requirements are very strict, if you don't meet the grades you don't get in.

Typically they are looking for AAA-ABB students for their courses and most are very popular, however they have the boundaries set low in attempts to find diamonds in the rough so to speak. People who may not do very well at A-Level may do brilliantly at University, or they may contribute something special to the University.
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J-OD
When first looking through prospectuses for a politics course, i had heard that Edinburgh was a good university (similar to bristol & warwick & ucl) reputation-wise. Yet when I look at the entry requirements for the politics or politics/w french it is BBB (whereas the other unis are around AAA-ABB)
I spoke to a woman at one of those ucas conventions and she said that the 'real' offers are likely to be a lot higher... although she didnt elaborate. and its possibly because edinburgh is oversubscribed, so there is more competition.. so, why does it say BBB, is it artificially higher.. and what should I be aiming for??
all advice welcome:confused:


Because in Scotland, students do 'highers' which is the equivilent of "AS level", meaning that English students are at an advantage as we do A2.
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Redders
The idea is to take some of the pressure of students in their final exams, which means the entrance requirements are very strict, if you don't meet the grades you don't get in.

Typically they are looking for AAA-ABB students for their courses and most are very popular, however they have the boundaries set low in attempts to find diamonds in the rough so to speak. People who may not do very well at A-Level may do brilliantly at University, or they may contribute something special to the University.


I agree with what you're saying.

Also isn't it to give people from disadvantaged backgrounds a better chance? If they go to poorer schools and don't get as good grades because of this? I think its also to persuade Scottish students to stay in Scotland
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d123
I agree with what you're saying.

Also isn't it to give people from disadvantaged backgrounds a better chance? If they go to poorer schools and don't get as good grades because of this? I think its also to persuade Scottish students to stay in Scotland


Yup at least that is the general gist of what they told me at the open day, they should post the reasons on the website would stop everyone from getting confused :yep:
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fat_hobbit
Because in Scotland, students do 'highers' which is the equivilent of "AS level", meaning that English students are at an advantage as we do A2.



yup, thats what my teachers told me, sometimes the uni asks english students to skip the first year too like because its more like our A2 level
Edinburgh dont hold grades in such high esteem as Bristol etc, they also have more students and so can afford to take 'less able' students on as well. They may just have realised that there is very little difference between someone with ABB and BBB in the grand scheme of things... (expects to be shot for saying this on TSR)
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History Lost in Physics
Edinburgh dont hold grades in such high esteem as Bristol etc, they also have more students and so can afford to take 'less able' students on as well. They may just have realised that there is very little difference between someone with ABB and BBB in the grand scheme of things... (expects to be shot for saying this on TSR)


I agree with you, just wish more other people would see it this way, afterall there is noway that we can say we are all on an even level after Sixthform etc because of different teachers/resources (schools in general).
kingy1404
yup, thats what my teachers told me, sometimes the uni asks english students to skip the first year too like because its more like our A2 level


Only if you have very good A level grades - Edinburgh said they didn't want to let me skip the first year unless I had straight A's (they say AAB but don't really mean it)
Redders
I agree with you, just wish more other people would see it this way, afterall there is noway that we can say we are all on an even level after Sixthform etc because of different teachers/resources (schools in general).


Precisely. Plus A levels are only a measure of memorising things. When it comes to them I have friends who got A's on papers but couldn't put anything they knew into practise, or use it for original thought. Personally I think the ability to deduce things that you have not been taught from things that you have been taught, is the defining quality of a good science student - that doesn't reflect in A levels!
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d123
If they go to poorer schools and don't get as good grades because of this?



this is hardly accounted for in the selection process of other unis of a similar calibre though.. but does seem fairer
maybe its just a scottish thing though.. although st andrews want AAA for lot of their courses, although i wouldnt want to study in a place with only three streets..
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J-OD
this is hardly accounted for in the selection process of other unis of a similar calibre though.. but does seem fairer
maybe its just a scottish thing though.. although st andrews want AAA for lot of their courses, although i wouldnt want to study in a place with only three streets..


Found a section in my Edinburgh prospectus which explains the decision to have triple B requirements for most of their courses, if you have one its around page 40 before the College of Humanities and Social Science courses.
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cheers, ill give it a look when im back in leeds