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R54 – Department for Culture, Media and Sport
Secretary of State ,Response on the Motion on Use of the Whip in Horse Racing



Response on the Motion on Use of the Whip in Horse Racing


Mr Speaker,

The House has expressed its concern about the use of the whip in horse racing and wishes me to respond. I have therefore written to the British Horseracing Authority expressing the views of the House as detailed in the motion. I have made four suggestions for amending the rules governing the use of the whip, and asked them to respond, though these four ideas are not exhaustive.

1. Reduction in the number of times the whip can be used in a race.
2. A ban on the use of the whip in the final furlong (closing stages).
3. Disciplinary sanctions be extended to the trainers of horses, given the link between trainer and rider.
4. A period of time where the horse who has been excessively whipped or otherwise whipped during a race, before they can race again.

I await a response from the British Horseracing Authority. It is my view that I would prefer changes to be made by them, rather than have to impose them by legislation
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To be honest, I'd say a lot of the house showed a lack of concern with 13 people abstaining on top of 16 people voting Nay, but of course the motion did win and it's good to see the relevant Secretary of State responding to it regardless of my opinions on it. For the reason of how many people abstained on the motion, I would say that MR should go to a vote to ensure such action has a proper mandate, but of course I don't get to decide that.
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I commend my Rt Hon. Friend on his quick response to the motion and encourage the House (whether that be with or without division) to pass this report.
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This is a sensible and proportionate response to such a division result.
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Or better still say "wait a second, this is a load a tripe and comes from people who haven't s clue in the world what they're going on about, who have probably never been anywhere near a horse let alone had anything to do with riding crops or riding in general.

I suppose at least some consolation can be taken in that the action is ultimately inaction because BHA should turn around and go "meh, nothing's changing"

And if the government wants to pay itself if the back for rapid action, where's the self condemnation for Mass inaction?
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Well I'm glad to see the government being a bit more engaged with the House's activities is what I'll say here.
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Well I'm glad to see the government being a bit more engaged with the House's activities is what I'll say here.
As much as I'd love to share the same optimism, the fact is that if it wasn't a CMS matter, then it's almost certain it would be ignored. The credit shouldn't be going to increased government activity, but for barnetlad's activity in (to an extent) carrying this government in terms of activity.
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As much as I'd love to share the same optimism, the fact is that if it wasn't a CMS matter, then it's almost certain it would be ignored. The credit shouldn't be going to increased government activity, but for barnetlad's activity in (to an extent) carrying this government in terms of activity.
This is true, and I do also recognise barnetlad's activity and contribution to governmental work.
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As much as I'd love to share the same optimism, the fact is that if it wasn't a CMS matter, then it's almost certain it would be ignored. The credit shouldn't be going to increased government activity, but for barnetlad's activity in (to an extent) carrying this government in terms of activity.
Don't worry, you should have something Education-related to scrutinise very shortly!
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Don't worry, you should have something Education-related to scrutinise very shortly!
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Mr Speaker,

As someone who opposed the initial motion I also stand opposed to this ministerial report and call upon my friend Baron of Sealand to give the house another vote when this report enters cessation.
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I will abstain on this Ministerial Report due to its being a load of self congratulatory tripe about how much the House supports animal welfare
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As much as I'd love to share the same optimism, the fact is that if it wasn't a CMS matter, then it's almost certain it would be ignored. The credit shouldn't be going to increased government activity, but for barnetlad's activity in (to an extent) carrying this government in terms of activity.
Or if it were a CMS matter Barnetlad disagreed with, for instance a coherent position on animal rights and the restoration of, among other things, hunting

and my question to the house remains open and unanswered: does anybody else actually have any experience with riding crops or is it really only me that has ever been anywhere near a horse?
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Don't worry, you should have something Education-related to scrutinise very shortly!
Can I guess: teaching a load of common Sense stuff/stuff most don't need to know like taxes, along with several hours a week more state funded gay conversion therapy (to, not from) along with consistency in policy by making Ulster Scots compulsory in Scotland and Cornish compulsory in Cornwall?
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Can I guess: teaching a load of common Sense stuff/stuff most don't need to know like taxes, along with several hours a week more state funded gay conversion therapy (to, not from) along with consistency in policy by making Ulster Scots compulsory in Scotland and Cornish compulsory in Cornwall?
You forgot the hour a week all schools will be required to spend reading the Communist Manifesto.

Though you have a good point re Cornish, I'd honestly overlooked that...
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Can I guess: teaching a load of common Sense stuff/stuff most don't need to know like taxes, along with several hours a week more state funded gay conversion therapy (to, not from) along with consistency in policy by making Ulster Scots compulsory in Scotland and Cornish compulsory in Cornwall?
Since compulsory veganism has been tried as a satirical response to the hunting ban, I feel inclined to mandate compulsory Old English lessons as a response to Mandatory Welsh.

*writes Bill*
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Whilst the motion in question is one proposed by a MP of the party I represent in opposition, and I am glad to see the government responding to motions, I simply must object to the idea that HM Government should interfere with the running of sports by individual associations such as the BHA. If I were in charge of the BHA, I'd frankly tell them that horse racing can make these decisions itself, in conjunction with jockeys, horse trainers and breeders, who I daresay know a lot more about equine safety than your average Member of Parliament.
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Oh and for the avoidance of doubt, I oppose this report and shall be voting against it.
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Mr Speaker, in respect of the will of the House expressed in the motion i shall abstain should this statement enter division.
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You forgot the hour a week all schools will be required to spend reading the Communist Manifesto.

Though you have a good point re Cornish, I'd honestly overlooked that...
Shows the amount of attention paid given it has been mentioned multiple times this term
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